Safety Check on a Coalbrookdale fire?

[moonlight]

Has anyone recently done a LGSC at a house with a Coalbrookdale fire in it?
What did you test? I know its not a gas appliance but it still burns solid fuel and produces CO2. Any insight would be good. Thanks.

 

[Last Plumber]

I've not and as you say it's not part of a Gas safety report.

I would look to see if there was adequate ventilation installed though and have a nosey around it.

 

[moonlight]

Would do a smoke test?

 

[Last Plumber]

Would do a smoke test?

If the person you are doing the test for wants the fire checking then yes.
Smoke it, check in Loft and outside etc just like on a gas flue.
The Ventilation for solid fuel is different, just in case you don't know.
Ask for the Manu's instructions or look at them online before you go so it's fresh in your head.
Sell them a CO alarm if they don't have one

 

[Harvest Fields]

Would do a smoke test?

Was it a LGSC?

 

[moonlight]

LGSC

Landlords gas safety check

 

[Harvest Fields]

Sorry mate miss read your post. For some reason I did not see LGSC. I would smoke test it, check the flue and as it is solid fuel and a landlords it needs to have Carbon monoxide alarm fitted.

 

[townfanjon]

Surely this doesnt fall under a “landlords cert “ .


stress the importance of a CO detector though ( no legal requirement )

 

[firemant]

Surely this doesnt fall under a “landlords cert “ .


stress the importance of a CO detector though ( no legal requirement )

Sorry mate:

excerpt from:
The Smoke and Carbon Monoxide Alarm (England) Regulations 2015: Q&A booklet for the private rented sector – landlords and tenants - GOV.UK

Private sector landlords are required from 1 October 2015 to have at least one smoke alarm installed on every storey of their properties and a carbon monoxide alarm in any room containing a solid fuel burning appliance (eg a coal fire, wood burning stove). After that, the landlord must make sure the alarms are in working order at the start of each new tenancy.

 

[firemant]

Has anyone recently done a LGSC at a house with a Coalbrookdale fire in it?
What did you test? I know its not a gas appliance but it still burns solid fuel and produces CO2. Any insight would be good. Thanks.

Did the LL specifically ask you to check the fire?
If not, I would test nothing, unless you are HETAS. It is not rocket science, but if you are not fully competent and get something wrong you could be liable.IMO.

If they specifically asked, I would be very careful how I couched the response or report. It should not appear on an actual LLGSC at all.

All IMO

 

[Harvest Fields]

Did the LL specifically ask you to check the fire?
If not, I would test nothing, unless you are HETAS. It is not rocket science, but if you are not fully competent and get something wrong you could be liable.IMO.

If they specifically asked, I would be very careful how I couched the response or report. It should not appear on an actual LLGSC at all.

All IMO

You still have to check if there is a CO alarm irrelevant of being HETAS and if it is an open fireplace you still have to check the chimney and do a flue flow just incase they decide to start burning stuff in the opening.

 

[firemant]

You still have to check if there is a CO alarm irrelevant of being HETAS and if it is an open fireplace you still have to check the chimney and do a flue flow just incase they decide to start burning stuff in the opening.

On a CP12 we should check all gas flues.I am not aware of anything that says e have to check SF appliances.But I am not afraid of, or offended by, being properly educated.

I did some contract work for a LA, and recall going to a crappy house to seal around a PF. I noticed a home made stove. No ventilation or alarm, and I suspected spillage. I did not test it, but mentioned to the tenant my concerns, and that I would report it to my boss. He went ape. I was a jobsworth etc. No previous gas service guy had mentioned anything. I recorded it on my paperwork, and the council went round and pulled the stove out.

 

[Harvest Fields]

I fully understand mate. But even though you are not HETAS you are classed as the last competent person in the house. It would be like walking past a fire with signs of spillage when you are only supposed to test the boiler.

 

[townfanjon]

Sorry mate:

excerpt from:
The Smoke and Carbon Monoxide Alarm (England) Regulations 2015: Q&A booklet for the private rented sector – landlords and tenants - GOV.UK

Private sector landlords are required from 1 October 2015 to have at least one smoke alarm installed on every storey of their properties and a carbon monoxide alarm in any room containing a solid fuel burning appliance (eg a coal fire, wood burning stove). After that, the landlord must make sure the alarms are in working order at the start of each new tenancy.

Yep the CO alarm is for the stove not the gas , but as gas engineers we dont test HETAS appliances . Yes you would do a visual etc etc , but how do you fill the form out and put in “ working pressure “ etc etc . I would like to see sombody gas rate a stove lol .
Thats my take on it anyway

 

[Harvest Fields]

If it is a specific HETAS appliance with its own solid flue. Then I would not test because I do not have the ticket. But if it was open flue I would check the chimney and flue flow test.

Misread the original post. Sorry.