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[desrob]

customer wants to replace the shower with a bath,the area is tiled and they would like the tiles to stay,the bath would fit wall to wall,top to bottom,my problem being how would one get a secure bath to tile ,keep bath in place bracket,would glueing it along it's entirity with these super strong solvents any idea's .

 

[glenno1]

Drill tiles with a tile drill or masonary bit then use brackets as normal ,making sure you push rawl plug right through tile or it may split under pressure.Also use a bead of silicone along sides of the bath P.S it wont give the best seal if your butting up to tiles

 

[JCplumb]

I had the exact same scenario a few months back.
as mentioned above - drill tiles, push rawl plugs through but baton against the tiles the whole length of the bath. Make sure you triple measue as you don't want to get the height of the baton wrong - it should sit snugly under the bath frame. Then screw up into the wood of the bath frame through the baton. It's a royal pain to get screws along the whole length. I also used 'no nails' as overkill and over-did the silicone.
Of course as with any bath install fill the bath and let it stand a while before measuring.
The one I did started to creak shortly after fixing up and needed a minor adjustment to the adjustable feet.
If the walls aren't square you'll have to get creative

 

[Guest123]

As with JCPlumb, use a baton but I fit small steel angle brackets/stretcher plates to the bath and screw these to the baton not only on the back wall but both sides on top and bottom of the bath first. I use a right angled cordless drill and this gets me right into the back of the bath and the sides also. Before sitting the bath on the baton, run a line of silicone round the top of the baton and it acts as a secondary seal should the silicone round the bath fail in the future. Doing it this way, the bath is solid.

 

[PlumbBobBob]

i agree with all the above methods there is nothing like belt and braces for a good job.

 

[GQuigley67]

agree wit all of the above, a 7mm spade bit to drill the tiles with a brown plug. I'm on a bathroom contract the now and every bath we do its 530mm to the top of the tile baton. Tile baton along the front, back and side of bath this will also level the bath for you and saves you messing around with the legs. cut 2 straps of wood around 680mm secure it to the tiled floor with screws and brown plugs at the centres of each leg, this allows you to screw your feet to the wood. Usually baths supply you with 2x L brackets, usually place one in the front left hand corner and back right hand corner, screwing to tile baton and underside of bath

 

[woodsy]

I would never put a bath up against tiles as a) its not the correct procedure and b) at some point in the near future the silicone will crack and leak and it will be your name they remember -and not the fact that they didn't want to spoil their tiles.

 

[GQuigley67]

i don't quite understand what you mean woodsy, if it leaked then the room is tiled so wont cause much damage ?

I'm thinking that floor is tiled, is it though ?

 

[woodsy]

Tiling should be done on to the top edge of the bath and not down the edge and then ' bodged ' with silicone. Silicone should be a cosmetic / secondary seal. Been to loads of baths with gaps i can get my fingers in which people try to fill with silicone and then wonder why water keeps coming thru the ceiling not just diyers - see it on new developments that i go to for several estate agents.

 

[GQuigley67]

no i agree on that part that its not the correct way of doing it, i'm just under the impression the floor is tiled but not sure if it is think he just ment the walls. At the end of the day its what the customer wants

 

[woodsy]

I agree with regard to what the customers want but i personally would walk away from jobs that that they want me to install incorrectly as they will have short memorys when things go wrong with regard to who told who to do it.

 

[JCplumb]

Nobody would choose to put the bath in after the tiling has been done, but if this case is similar to the one I did a while back - the customer didn't want the tiles removing and the whole room was tiled with no spares and old stock tiles that you couldn't get any more, well not without considerable cost anyway.
So you have 2 options, walking away in my opinion would give you a bad name as if you weren't up for the challenge. Doing the job as described above but making sure to let the customer know that it isn't ideal. If you have so much work on that you can afford to walk away from good earners like bathroom installations then you're in a minority.
Although it wouldn't be my first choice, there's nothing wrong with doing it this way, the baton needs to be well secured and once fixed to it properly, the bath is going nowhere. The problems start if the walls aren't square but that issue can always be addressed and the customoer advised of the options.

 

[woodsy]

Nothing to do with not being up for a challange, but first rule for me is do it once, do it correctly. Having no work isn't a reason for not adhering to that. Sorry for the rant

 

[WaterTight]

It's correct if it works.

 

[GQuigley67]

if done correctly it will be fine, advising customer to get seals redone when needed, you could even seal around the edges with something stronger than silicone.