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😀had cust on phone today,i installed a vaillant combi for them last year and they say they have no control over hot water as the knob has broken,they have told me they have been using the temp control when doing the washing up,turning up and down when having a shower/bath,i told them the control knob was to set the temp of the water,no wonder it has broken.silly custards😎

 

[Rodreguez]

😀had cust on phone today,i installed a vaillant combi for them last year and they say they have no control over hot water as the knob has broken,they have told me they have been using the temp control when doing the washing up,turning up and down when having a shower/bath,i told them the control knob was to set the temp of the water,no wonder it has broken.silly custards😎

Some people wont leave stuff alone

 

[wnjswozo]

they are a pain to change on 831

 

[Bernie2]

Funnily enough I know someone else with a modern Valiant on which the control knob broke. Is it my imagination or are Valiants getting a bit fragile and cheapish looking?

The same one also had a pressure gauge that would seem to be from a kids toy.

Unusual for German stuff though. Are they out sourcing to other countries I wonder and letting standards drop?

Must admit I have never really been a fan of Valiant. I take my hat off to them for the technical advances, but reliability and materials quality as well as over engineering seem to be a problem for them.

I work on the basis, the more complicated a boiler is the more there is to go wrong. It does seem to me though, that a lot of boilers today seem to be over complicating things to just perhaps gain a little bit more boiler efficiency.

I suppose all a customer wants is simple fit and forget appliance.

I do of course welcome anything that cuts down on green houses gases, but wonder if much more can be squeezed out of a gas boiler whose fuel in itself is hydro carbon. And at what point does over complication become a problem for reliability and cost?

Perhaps we should be moving away from gas all together, not having to pay vast amounts of money for increased technical advances that make boilers so complicated I think Boeing, EADS or NASA might be asked next to produce them. 🙂 🙂

 

[grahamgas]

When I went on the Vaillant tech day, the guy they are designed to break, if forced, rather than damaging the connection, as it goes to the PCB.

 

[Spudhater]

seems like a sensible idea........

How many knobs do find missing on a ferrolli...!!!

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

Funnily enough I know someone else with a modern Valiant on which the control knob broke. Is it my imagination or are Valiants getting a bit fragile and cheapish looking?

The same one also had a pressure gauge that would seem to be from a kids toy.

Unusual for German stuff though. Are they out sourcing to other countries I wonder and letting standards drop?

Must admit I have never really been a fan of Valiant. I take my hat off to them for the technical advances, but reliability and materials quality as well as over engineering seem to be a problem for them.

I work on the basis, the more complicated a boiler is the more there is to go wrong. It does seem to me though, that a lot of boilers today seem to be over complicating things to just perhaps gain a little bit more boiler efficiency.

I suppose all a customer wants is simple fit and forget appliance.

I do of course welcome anything that cuts down on green houses gases, but wonder if much more can be squeezed out of a gas boiler whose fuel in itself is hydro carbon. And at what point does over complication become a problem for reliability and cost?

Perhaps we should be moving away from gas all together, not having to pay vast amounts of money for increased technical advances that make boilers so complicated I think Boeing, EADS or NASA might be asked next to produce them. 🙂 🙂

THATS WHY I FIT POTTERTON PERFOMAS simples🙂

 

[tackleburger]

I fit Vaillants most of the time. When you take the case off the quality can't be argued with. Full of copper & stainless steel. Once they are set up and comissioned correctly they will last for many years. I tend to find the boilers with problems are the ones that were installed in a day. One look in the benchmark book and a cross check with the u guage or the FGA and you soon know.

The amount of combi's I check the inlet burner pressure on whilst a tap is running to find they fall one or two millibars below the manufacturers recommendations is frightning. Some guys think that because it's a 22mm pipe all will be okay and tick the boxes in the benchmark guide straight from the MIs technical data page.