Smart controls new regs

[Tommo25]

What smart controls are guys going to fit to comply with the new regs starting from April. Is the there a relatively simple one for say elderly people who just want basic controls? I fit viessmann and the RF programmer they sell is so simple perfect for people who just want ‘on/off’

Thanks

 

[jtsplumbing]

Pain in the backside only applies to combi boilers & from what I understand customer has no option , has to fit one of the new controls or face a 5K fine ,

 

[ShaunCorbs]

I won't be fitting it for old people

It's not like building control are going to come out and check on it

 

[jtsplumbing]

I won't be fitting it for old people

It's not like building control are going to come out and check on it

Whats your option of weather comp as one of the other options ? the flue gas recovery could be expensive

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Weather comp ok but not easy to get right and half the time people say the rads arnt got enough

Costly nearly as much as the boiler (400+)

 

[Alpha man]

Weather comps will get fitted, then unwired when the rads ain’t hot enough, but leave the weather comp in position so it looks the part!!

 

[Last Plumber]

I’ve said it before and I will say it again.

It’s all complete ballcocks!

Since April 2005’ it’s been none stop nonsense!

In my opinion.

 

[jtsplumbing]

I’ve said it before and I will say it again.

It’s all complete ballcocks!

Since April 2005’ it’s been none stop nonsense!

In my opinion.

Just means another big price rise in on the cards ! cost of boilers and controls is bound to increase , Next thing we will have to do a course for it , renewable every 5 years of course.

 

[townfanjon]

Weather comp easiest by far , but it simply doesnt suit everyone,
I have it at home and love it .

 

[Last Plumber]

Just means another big price rise in on the cards ! cost of boilers and controls is bound to increase , Next thing we will have to do a course for it , renewable every 5 years of course.

Yes you're right, another 5 year renewal due.

I bet you're as impressed as me when you sit these courses too?

You come out full of coffee machine powdered crud and know nothing more than when you went in but fully equipped with a lightweight wallet.

Rant nearly over !

 

[Last Plumber]

Weather comp easiest by far , but it simply doesnt suit everyone,
I have it at home and love it .

Have you got 'real' weather comp or the WiFi type?
If it's the latter, did you find it accurate from the start or did it need to bed in?

 

[hammers4spanner]

Pain in the backside only applies to combi boilers & from what I understand customer has no option , has to fit one of the new controls or face a 5K fine ,

So where has all this come from ?

 

[Harvest Fields]

I was under the impression this is on new installs only. Old people only change boilers when they completely have to.

What’s the point of fitting a controller that completely baffles anyone older that 60???

 

[hammers4spanner]

So all new combi boilers installed from April must have smart controls ?

How is this going to be regulated?

 

[Harvest Fields]

For an elderly customer I would probably fit a normal stat and an external weather sensor

 

[hammers4spanner]

Can' you just fit a smart stat with the gateway unplugged ?

Of course they had wifi when you fitted it

 

[ShaunCorbs]

You can guess where it comes from Europe more Rubbish

 

[hammers4spanner]

This probably not great news either for the little man.
Pushing the cost of install up will drive more business to the big boys.

 

[jtsplumbing]

So all new combi boilers installed from April must have smart controls ?

How is this going to be regulated?

Apparently by building control, I can see a lot of bench mark paperwork "Getting Lost" they will send out some university graduate who hasn't a clue what they looking at to inspect the jobs

 

[jtsplumbing]

This probably not great news either for the little man.
Pushing the cost of install up will drive more business to the big boys.

That's been on the cards for years, they want us out ! when that happens people will be paying 6K + for a boiler change £300 + for a service

 

[Leezygeezer]

Boiler plus. I believe offers 4 options, weather comp., flue gas recovery, smart controls and load compensation.

I've heard some talk about boilers already having load compensation as part of normal operating. Although this has yet to be confirmed.

Time to go back to heat only boilers

 

[hammers4spanner]

After the last few days its time to go back to the good old permanent pilot back boiler.

Mothers house still has one over 30 years old only ever had a pump and timeclock.

 

[jtsplumbing]

They recon things go full circle ! so back to simple systems , hot water, pump & room stat, cast iron boiler

 

[Last Plumber]

After the last few days its time to go back to the good old permanent pilot back boiler.

Mothers house still has one over 30 years old only ever had a pump and timeclock.

Yes, and when you look at her gas bill it won’t be any more ridiculous than any one else’s.

In fact, my money is on it being less!