Socket forming tool

[P J F PLUMBING]

Hi guys any good and ££ I used one when I was training years and years ago thinking of getting one thoughts pls

 

[SimonG]

The only concern I have is how much it would thin the wall of the pipe. Especially as its not as thick as it used to be. Could be handy for coming away from old pipework.

 

[steadyon]

Use mine very, very, rarely. Sometimes useful to connect end of pipe coming out of a wall so you don't have to solder inside the brickwork, but that doesn't happen very often. If you're thinking of the fancy expander ones, then if you don't anneal the tube it can split, and if you do anneal it you've got more cleaning to do.

 

[P J F PLUMBING]

The rothenburger one fits in the end of pipe then you kind of ratchet it to form was thinking sockets and when you bend pipe ect

 

[PhoenixServices]

If you do get one. I would be interested to see how you find it. As was debating the same thing

 

[lame plumber]

got them in the van, yet to find a reason to use them.

 

[PhoenixServices]

I was hoping some one would come along and say yeah it's really fast to use I never buy couplings anymore. Don't think that will be the case though.

 

[Kyle87]

I'm sure they told us at college you couldn't use them anymore as the thinned out section of pipe would no longer conform to a British standard or something like that.

They only let us use them in college to save on couplings while teaching us how to solder

 

[AWheating]

handy if you have an old/odd sized cold main or similar that needs coupling up. Cant be used on gas, best not used on new pipe as its alot thinner than "the good old days" (good for tat )

 

[oz-plumber]

We use them all the time when doing copper work.
Either water supply, gas or refrigeration piping.

I cannot tell you the last time I bought a copper coupling
( except for 1/4" copper )

 

[Ermintrude]

Refrigeration is normal as copper is much thicker and joints a brazed.

 

[PhoenixServices]

What's the wall thickness out there, oz?

 

[BN9Pete]

I bought a 15mm one but only used it a few times, hard work just to make a socket when 15mm sockets are so cheap.

 

[oz-plumber]

I bought a 15mm one but only used it a few times, hard work just to make a socket when 15mm sockets are so cheap.

What sort of expanders do you use.

The ones we use would take about 3 seconds to do what is required?

 

[BN9Pete]

What sort of expanders do you use.

The ones we use would take about 3 seconds to do what is required?

The one I have is a Monument, the tapered end is placed into the tube and the other end is whacked with a hammer, I think I even managed to hit my hand.

 

[Ermintrude]

The one I have is a Monument, the tapered end is placed into the tube and the other end is whacked with a hammer, I think I even managed to hit my hand.

Pipe swaging tool

 

[BN9Pete]

Pipe swaging tool

Does it have 2 names, Monument call it a socket forming tool.

 

[Ermintrude]

Swaging is the operation

 

[kirkgas]

Socket forming and swaging aren't the same thing, swaging forms an "olive" inside the pipe by inserting the tool which has a ball bearing which protrudes and forms the ring/olive, ( haha always remember to put the nut on first) socket forming is self explanatory

 

[Ray Stafford]

Socket forming and swaging aren't the same thing, swaging forms an "olive" inside the pipe by inserting the tool which has a ball bearing which protrudes and forms the ring/olive, ( haha always remember to put the nut on first) socket forming is self explanatory

You learn something new every day.

I have used the terms interchangeably. Naughty Ray!

 

[Ermintrude]

Me too!

http://youtu.be/STl8aYYcpb4

http://hilmor.com/products/compact-swage-tool