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Hi all, I was hoping for some advice on a problem I have to solve...
Theres a drain in the basement of a friends bar, and it stinks to put it bluntly... It does have a trap to the sewer, but the drain its self is open and feeding into it is...
second floor bar sink and glass washer
first floor bar sink, glass washer, coffee machine
and the ice maker, dish washer and sink in the basment
finally the gutter down pipe that handles all the rain from the front roof of the building also feeds into it... All from a combination of various sizes feeding into the drain at the bottom of the basement stairs.
Needless to say I need to get a 4" male adapter onto the clay fitting and get a stack on there and get everything connected up properly
and here is the problem... It's going to need a vent, but its not possible to run a 4" pipe any higher than about 5.5ft above drain level, this only puts the vent 3ft higher than the basement sink and no where near the height of the ground floor bar let alone the 1st, and a vent needs to be the highest point, correct?
if the vent was to terminate inside the building it would still smell, even with a one way vent and charcoal filter on? And if the vent was not big enough it will end up coming back up the basement sink, the air would break the trap seal, unless I put a hefty slow draining trap on the basement inlet to the stack
the maximum size pipe I think I can run is 2" and it's going to be very long with a lot of bends on, up the stairs, behind a kitchen and up the back of the building
whats the ideal solution?
any advice would be really appreciated and greatly received!
I'm not sure, but is it ok to put a stack on top of a underground trap, or does the base of the stack need to be open to sewer also? Would I need to remove the underground clay trapped fitting?
Theres a drain in the basement of a friends bar, and it stinks to put it bluntly... It does have a trap to the sewer, but the drain its self is open and feeding into it is...
second floor bar sink and glass washer
first floor bar sink, glass washer, coffee machine
and the ice maker, dish washer and sink in the basment
finally the gutter down pipe that handles all the rain from the front roof of the building also feeds into it... All from a combination of various sizes feeding into the drain at the bottom of the basement stairs.
Needless to say I need to get a 4" male adapter onto the clay fitting and get a stack on there and get everything connected up properly
and here is the problem... It's going to need a vent, but its not possible to run a 4" pipe any higher than about 5.5ft above drain level, this only puts the vent 3ft higher than the basement sink and no where near the height of the ground floor bar let alone the 1st, and a vent needs to be the highest point, correct?
if the vent was to terminate inside the building it would still smell, even with a one way vent and charcoal filter on? And if the vent was not big enough it will end up coming back up the basement sink, the air would break the trap seal, unless I put a hefty slow draining trap on the basement inlet to the stack
the maximum size pipe I think I can run is 2" and it's going to be very long with a lot of bends on, up the stairs, behind a kitchen and up the back of the building
whats the ideal solution?
any advice would be really appreciated and greatly received!
I'm not sure, but is it ok to put a stack on top of a underground trap, or does the base of the stack need to be open to sewer also? Would I need to remove the underground clay trapped fitting?
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