Steam from condensate drain

[Mr Fog]

Hi
I am having my kitchen revamped and have removed the sink and waste pipes.

However the condensate drain pipe was connected to the waste pipe so I therfore temporarily dropped the condensate drain into a bucket.

I have since turned on the boiler so my wife could take a shower and noticed water vapour/steam coming from the condensate drain pipe...

Is this normal or a problem with the boiler which is an Isar Ideal HE24.

Many thanks in advance for any repies.

Mr Fog

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Don't run the boiler into a bucket with the isar series the condense isn't trapped so needs a trap inline, normally just below the boiler / under the kitchen worktop

It's basically what's going out the flue in the condense pipe so it's products of combustion

Best option is enlist the services of a gas safe engy to put the condense right and maybe service the boiler

 

[Chuck]

Yes, it's a problem. If this "vapour/steam" is being emitted into your house so, probably, is flue gas. Turn off the boiler and get a Gas Safe engineer to come and sort it out for you.

Broadly speaking, a condensate drain needs to be treated with as much respect as the flue. Don't mess with it or you may end up with a dead family.

 

[Mr Fog]

Thank you for the replies chaps, I'll get it looked at.

 

[heliotrope]

Don't run the boiler into a bucket with the isar series the condense isn't trapped so needs a trap inline, normally just below the boiler / under the kitchen worktop

It's basically what's going out the flue in the condense pipe so it's products of combustion

Best option is enlist the services of a gas safe engy to put the condense right and maybe service the boiler

So are you saying the Isar does not have an S Trap fitted?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

So are you saying the Isar does not have an S Trap fitted?

Nope straight from the combustion chamber

 

[Chuck]

So are you saying the Isar does not have an S Trap fitted?

I believe that at least one version with that model number does have an internal S-trap:

http://idealboilers.com/installer/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2013/08/204256-2-7.pdf

but the OP's description strongly suggests either it is not performing its function correctly or there is a HX leak or it's a variant without a trap.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

I believe that model does have an internal S-trap:

http://idealboilers.com/installer/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2013/08/204256-2-7.pdf

but the OP's description strongly suggests either it is not performing its function correctly or there is a HX leak.

If there's an internal trap why is an external to the boiler trap required

It's prob just in case the condense line gets blocked, like on the solos

 

[Chuck]

If there's an internal trap why is an external to the boiler trap required
It's prob just in case the condense line gets blocked, like on the solos

You seem to have found another version of the ISAR HE 24 than I did. The manual I cited is dated Aug 2009 and does not show an external trap. Anyway, the symptoms certainly suggest no trap (likely) or an empty trap (less likely) and either way I hope we can agree that the OP should stop using the boiler until the condensate drain has been reviewed and reconnected properly by a GSR.

[I've edited my original comment appropriately.]

 

[ShaunCorbs]

You seem to have found another version of the ISAR HE 24 than I did. The manual I cited is dated Aug 2009 and does not show an external trap. Anyway, the symptoms certainly suggest no trap (likely) or an empty trap (less likely) and either way I hope we can agree that the OP should stop using the boiler until the condensate drain has been reviewed and reconnected properly by a GSR.

[I've edited my original comment appropriately.]

2008 mine so one year apart

And tbh think there's no trap

As on hot water the trap should of filled / stopped steaming / venting poc to the room within 10-15 mins

 

[king of pipes]

Thats a bit of a no no Mr Fog products of combustion with be escaping into your kitchen get it reconnected temporarily until your revamp

 

[Mr Fog]

Thanks for all your replies folks, I appreciate your help.
Mr Fog

 

[Gasmk1]

2008 mine so one year apart

And tbh think there's no trap

As on hot water the trap should of filled / stopped steaming / venting poc to the room within 10-15 mins

Before mounting the boiler on the wall, the condensate drain (provided in the h/ware pack) must be connected from the boiler ‘S’ trap to a drainage point, preferably within the building.

Ensure that the condensate trap is full of water before commissioning the boiler . Refer to Frame 26.

from the instructions it hought all isars had this difficult to remove and prone to blocking s trap fitted

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Before mounting the boiler on the wall, the condensate drain (provided in the h/ware pack) must be connected from the boiler ‘S’ trap to a drainage point, preferably within the building.

Ensure that the condensate trap is full of water before commissioning the boiler . Refer to Frame 26.

from the instructions it hought all isars had this difficult to remove and prone to blocking s trap fitted

Is that from the 2008 / earlier instructions??

 

[Gasmk1]

march 08

 

[garygvl]

there's always been s traps on isars