Toilet flapper syphons...

[mutley racers]

are they any good? I have been to aclose coupled toilet that has a dudley turbo 88r and it fitted with the whole 9ltr flush and it is not getting rid of just toilet tissue in the pan. A lot of water gets into the pan. It just doesn't seem like much force. So, i have seen these flapper wastes and was wondering if the force from this would be any better? Does anyone have any experience with them?

Cheers chaps

 

[JCplumb]

I've fitted a couple, they're ok but I don't really like them, it's always a pain to get the toilet handle at the right angle.
Can't really see the water being much more forceful than with any non-syphonic flush valve though.

 

[Alanc]

Possibly the jets around the rim of pan are blocked with crap.

 

[mutley racers]

Possibly the jets around the rim of pan are blocked with crap.

I did check the jets and to be honest, they do seem all clear.

 

[mutley racers]

From what I looking at I thought it would get a better force or you could just hold the handle open until all the pan was clear. But maybe I was wrong in thinking the valve was faulty. Maybe there is a little blockage or because it is close to the thames and so the level of the water is high