toiletsyphon

[desrob]

have most got integral over flows

 

[kozak1968]

Now days yes

 

[tom609]

why??

 

[kozak1968]

You can buy different height syphons which allow for the overflow down the syphon fitting.

 

[tom609]

no why the first question lol

 

[kozak1968]

Ask desrob

 

[tom609]

i was

 

[Plum Bob 66]

why??

so they dont over flow ?

 

[tom609]

but they do overflow just internally now rsther thsn externally and in the present climate can freeze in the soil pipe now

 

[Plum Bob 66]

but they do overflow just internally now rsther thsn externally and in the present climate can freeze in the soil pipe now

mmm,fair point but would have to say I haven't come across this yet Tom so I'm inclined to say it's the exception rather than the rule.

 

[SimonG]

I'd rather an internal than external to be honest. External ones are ignored, internal ones are a nuisance and people tend to get them fixed quicker. imho

 

[tom609]

i had it hapen a couple of years ago thats how i know had to cut out the cast iron soil pipe put short temp section in on xmas eve then replaced it after the new year replaced faulty torbeck job sorted

 

[Kimou]

But we are supposed to still use the external warning pipe as well as internal. I'm sure it's a reg that nobody adheres to though, even a lot of cisterns don't have the facility for them.

 

[lame plumber]

a lot of old wcs dont even have ext overflows, they get fixed the quickest!!!

 

[tom609]

no point if it uses the internal it'l never get to the external though few cisterns have the facillity for external now

 

[Mike Jackson]

But we are supposed to still use the external warning pipe as well as internal. I'm sure it's a reg that nobody adheres to though, even a lot of cisterns don't have the facility for them.

The regulations changed quite a while ago allowing the internal overflow as it is less likely to be ignored than the external one as more people have water meters now.

 

[Kimou]

The regulations changed quite a while ago allowing the internal overflow as it is less likely to be ignored than the external one as more people have water meters now.

Yes, I know that. But after it became finally permissible to have internal you still had to have both. Unless it's changed in the last year or so, I think it's still the case.

 

[kozak1968]

Seen flats in a complex that has a sign saying the buildings insurance won't cover damage caused by leaking overflows

 

[tom609]

impossible if there is no facillity for an external overflow with the 6ltr flush the overflow level would be half way down the cisterns unless they were slimline

 

[Kimou]

impossible if there is no facillity for an external overflow with the 6ltr flush the overflow level would be half way down the cisterns unless they were slimline

That was my confusion too. It's either a requirement or it's not. I don't know who makes this stuff up. But for sure, I have definitely seen it as a reg. I'd like to check if it's still in force.

 

[tom609]

go ahead make my day lol

 

[Mike Jackson]

The requirement is for a warning pipe or other no less effective device. It's Schedule 2, 25 (1) h of the water regulations. The requirement for a warning pipe is for storage cisterns not flushing cisterns.

 

[Kimou]

Thank, Mike. You're entirely correct. I have seen the requirement for both, but it must've been years ago when they first accepted the use of internal warning. I guess I can't distinguish 2 years from a decade anymore. These bones must be getting old.

 

[REDSAW]

current water reg byelaws

 

[fogarty]

My next door neighbour had a running overflow outside. It was pouring onto another neighbours car roof. I asked him if he wanted me to have a look at it but he said not yet; it'll stop him parking outside my window next time.