Towel Radiator On Solid Wall !

[Monkey Wrench]

I've just started a new bathroom/shower project and the customer has changed their mind and given me a new layout. Basically, everythings changed accept for the loo !

As you can see from the attached picture, the towel rail (which used to be where the new basin will be) is now sited on the end wall of the walk-in shower. This is a solid wall
and so the pipes will obviously have to be chased into the wall. Does anyone please have any tips to ensure that the pipes stay centred/level for the new radiator while the wall is
skimmed, tiled and then grouted.

I've done this many times in a partition wall where it's possible to leave a small amount of movement in the pipes for final alignment but pipes chased into a solid wall is obviously a different matter.

Thank you

 

[Guest123]

Clip the pipes to the wall using copper saddle clips and they won't move, plus will stay tight to the chase If you use standard Talon type clips the pipe will be pushed out of the chase. Remember to insulate the pipework first before clipping them.

 

[Gray0689]

I always just use talon nail in clips then fill with mortar and I use foam 9mm lagging gives a bit of play then

 

[tamz]

Fill the chase in yourself. At least you know they will be in the right place.

 

[stevetheplumber]

leave the tails long and solder a joining piece across them using two elbows

 

[JCplumb]

+1
You know the centres will be spot on if you do that.

 

[Gray0689]

Only problem with that way is if you don't do the tilling the tiller won't like it

 

[JCplumb]

Aww poor tiler

 

[Monkey Wrench]

Thank you for all the excellent advice.

Another quick question, I've spent ages in the past rubbing chrome plated copper ends down to bare copper for soldering. Is there a quicker way ?

 

[Gray0689]

No poor me if I have to go back and cut pipes for him ;-)

 

[Monkey Wrench]

Only problem with that way is if you don't do the tilling the tiller won't like it

Fortunately, I'm doing the tiling !

 

[Guest123]

Thank you for all the excellent advice.

Another quick question, I've spent ages in the past rubbing chrome plated copper ends down to bare copper for soldering. Is there a quicker way ?

I use a dremel and it takes seconds to fly round it with a grinding disc.

 

[Gray0689]

Still have to be cut when tilling and if full of water :-(

 

[Gray0689]

Comp stop ends on chrome copper
I don't even drain or let pressure off just a bucket and cut quick valves straight on wont lose much water and keeps the reflexes quick lol

 

[JCplumb]

thinking about it, maybe a piece of wood with the 15mm holes at the right centres that you can slip on and off would be a better idea?

 

[stevetheplumber]

does anyone else keep a roll of strapping for clipping lagged pipes in walls for showers and towel rails etc like this
Galvanised Fixing Builders Band 10m x 12mm 18298

 

[tamz]

Never been without a roll for 35 years

 

[PlumbBobBob]

no but i will, that looks handy to have in the van

 

[Gray0689]

does anyone else keep a roll of strapping for clipping lagged pipes in walls for showers and towel rails etc like this
Galvanised Fixing Builders Band 10m x 12mm 18298

Yep use it for everything from clipping pipes to soils to wastes
As tamz said always have at least one in van

 

[dancinplumba]

me too

 

[Guest123]

Always had galv band in the van. Great for clipping just about everything, especially waste pipes round a joist. I've got the plastic coated stuff too.

 

[AWheating]

i love the band me.