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hi my name is neil,i`m 33 and have just passed my theory but having problems finding people or companys to do my hours!! i live in worcester park, surrey/south london. if anyone can help please let me know, will be willing to do it for free!!
 
no i need to do my hours as well,want to learn it properly,not cheat it
 
ccn1,cpa,boilers but only theory papers.go back for pratical once hours/porfollio complete.
 
Dont you think you should have got youre xperience first before sitting these exams ?
This to me just proves whats wrong with the industry , you have spent money out i presume on your theory papers and yet now ask for practical experience which basically says you have no experience other than book read . Dont you think you should not have sat your papers till a later date ?? I would say good luck but in finding your experience but tough luck if you dont !!!
 
A bit harsh that gaspastemania.
I agree with what you are saying and I am very surprised he was even allowed to sit the theory papers without experience but it is a fault in the system and the way the industry is being led rather than neils fault.

Its the training providers that are making all of the hollow promises and pushing people into the industry without the relevant experience.
They are the ones making money out of this and fooling people like neil into parting with his money.

I cannot help neil m but I wish you all the best in finding a placement. Does you training provider not offer any help in getting the placement to gain experience?
 
I dont see it as harsh but more of a reality check , i blame the training centers offering vbroken promises but i also blame the individual for being foolish enough with spending the hard earnt cash on a course without getting the necessary information and potential training first .
I have a donkey working with me who has lost his job and asked about gas and plumbing , i gave him few days a week and i pass him to an engineer when i have no work for him .He has not passed any cash to a training center and is getting experience and knowledge to see if he actually likes the job in the first place .
After all neil m you may hate the job if ever you pass , like i say good luck but could well be tough luck .
 
Dont you think you should have got youre xperience first before sitting these exams?

To become a medic you learn theory, starting from basic A&P, for three years with many many many exams before progressing to the supervised clinical "practical" work. I think you learn far more when you start practical work with a sound understanding of the principles involved so Neil's approach sounds sensible to me. JMTPW.
 
To become a medic you learn theory, starting from basic A&P, for three years with many many many exams before progressing to the supervised clinical "practical" work. I think you learn far more when you start practical work with a sound understanding of the principles involved so Neil's approach sounds sensible to me. JMTPW.

This is the problem, which is a presumption that principles can be easily learned through classroom activities. They can, along with facts and some concepts...but what do these really mean, and what purpose do they have when considered alongside the day to day curricula of plumbers and gas engineers?

The learning of facts or propositional knowledge (classroom learning) out of context or situation of doing, is also a failing of Higher Education, but they seem to get away with it. For example, I chatted to an ofsted inspector for apprenticeships, and her degree was in economics. For vocational learning, the key to its value is in its purpose, in that subject matter learned is supposed to 'relate' to what is done. Without this close integration of training and assessment, of theory and practice, facts and propositional knowledge are quickly forgotten, because it did not form part of a meaningful event for the student.

This is indeed a situation that can be extended to all areas of education, but for vocational education it is dangerous, and reduces the status of practical learning and experience. When trainee gas engineers, talk of getting 'hours' of experience, then we have a problem.

After nearly 30 years I have had to give up gas work because I cant afford to register, do the courses, maintain my analyser, pay my insurance, etc. Back to plumbing for me, out of the back of my estate car, as I can't afford a van replacement either. Professionalism is a distant memory.
 
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