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Hi all quick question, we just had some waste pipe replaced behind the toilet a couple of days ago, this morning I went to start boxing the pipe back in and noticed something around the bottom of the pipe, see picture attached, what is it? im hoping its not what my untrained eye thinks it is as it looks like a piece of toilet roll covered in 💩😲😁
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Am I all good to carry on boxing im or do I need to call the plumber back, id hate to call him about a sh** leakage if its just packaging from the new pipe or something 🤣
 
Hard to see really. Give it a wipe with some tissue and inspect the debris. It may be grease used to slide the pan con in.

However, I don’t think it’s grease. It looks like the pan con has been pushed directly into a push fit soil elbow. It shouldn’t be done like this as the fins on the pan con gasket will have trouble sealing.

Should have put a short section of pipe into the push fit soil elbow (only needs to protrude a small amount from the elbow), then the pan con into the pipe.
 
I thought that but looks like it has got a little bit of 110 pipe in the pushfit (but very short as quite tight).
At a guess I'd say the white pan connector was fitted to the old pipe before the new elbow was fitted and the deposit is just some scale from the old pipe. Would have been best to clean it first but I dont think it warrants a callback unless its leaking.
Wipe/clean and keep an eye on it for a bit or trust your plumber.
Reccomend you make your boxing-in removable anyway if you can as there are a few joints in there
 
I’m with Timmy, it looks like there’s no pipe in that fitting. It’s all under strain too, the pan connector into the pipe is not centralised - this would probably be improved with a pipe in the fitting.

Needs redoing.

Preferably the soil needs altering to make the final connections less strained , can’t tell from the photos how easy this would be but it would definitely be better long term to relieve all that strain and use rigid pipe instead of a flexi.
 
I've looked again and would put good money on it having pipe in fitting, and also see no reason for claim that it needs redoing.
Its a repair and likely never going to be perfect, it may be better with fixed pipe but don't know how practical that is and I dont see the strain?
I think the off center strain your seeing is infact just the pipe.
Sorry Ben-gee but I think you need to spend another second looking at pics before you condemn the plumber and cost him an hour of his day!
 
Hi all, thanks for the replies they were helpful

At a guess I'd say the white pan connector was fitted to the old pipe before the new elbow was fitted and the deposit is just some scale from the old pipe. Would have been best to clean it first but I dont think it warrants a callback unless its leaking.

Looks like it was scale, it was difficult to get to but I was able to poke it with a stick and it dropped off and had the consistency of crumbly stone.

Preferably the soil needs altering to make the final connections less strained , can’t tell from the photos how easy this would be but it would definitely be better long term to relieve all that strain and use rigid pipe instead of a flexi.

Unfortunately this house isn't simple to work in 😆,

Just to expand on whats going on and to pick your expert brains, It's actually the second time the plumber has done these pipes, first time was 3 years ago when we moved in and gutted the bathroom, it was all cast iron and still is below that tee, they just replaced the pan connector and pipes above but originally plumbed directly into the top of the soil stack as there was no vent pipe and it was presumed at the time that it must of been connected to next door as its a old terraced house.


However we kept have issues with sewage smells in the bathroom during the summer mostly but occasionally in the winter to and when doing work on the roof and loft we found the old vent pipe so at some point in the past before we brought it someone had cut and capped the top of the stack to just above the bathroom floor?? Why i don't know! so we had him come back (its a plumber that's contracted to my uncles business so we weren't a priority and it took a few months to get my uncle to send him over, money over family apparently 😆) to fit a durgo valve to hopefully stop it as the thought is that when we flushed the toilet it was creating a vacuum as no inlet and drawing the sewage gas up into the bathroom and as theres no vent the pressure somehow allowed it to leak out??

that was my uncles idea (he's not a plumber but the company build and renovate old property so has a lot of experience im guessing) but the plumber thinks the soil stack is cracked and wanted to replace it but because of were it runs it would mean ripping out half our kitchen to get to it so it was decided to try the durgo first, which probably explains why it looks a bit of a rush job not that that is an excuse since we still pay my uncle just family rates (although I still think he's more expensive than others🤣🤣🤣)

I'll put some extra pics

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Based on the above and the new pictures does anyone believe that there's anything urgent that needs rectifying, otherwise its going to be trailed over the summer to see if it resolves the issue. I'm only installing temporary boxing so I don't have a horrible pipe stuck in my bathroom (the boxing in picture is the temporary temporary boxing while I wait on some mdf, I'm shielding so was just using scrap i had in the shed, don't judge 🤣🤣🤣). Also how high does the durgo need to be above the tee, I was hoping that it wouldnt be that tall as we walk our elbow reaching for the big roll now 😅, I was thinking half that hight as its only the toilet that connects to the stack, the sink and bath drain into a different gray water system.

Thanks all
 
Not overly impressed with the standard of pipework but time will tell, sounds like he's doing it as an extra on other work for your family, possibly not something he wanted to do.
The vertical surfaces of the box near the back of the pan will be best tiled or at least painted in gloss finish, they will get splashed from flushing with lid open and standing number 1's !
 
Hard to see really. Give it a wipe with some tissue and inspect the debris. It may be grease used to slide the pan con in.

However, I don’t think it’s grease.
Nor I, as the OP has since confirmed. It would suggest that the joint wasn't quite as clean as you'd hope no doubt due to access restrictions, but may only be externally dirty.

Pictures hard to make sense of for me, so not going to criticise or praise the work any more than that as don't feel confident doing so.
 
I think it'll be ok.
Make sure the durgo is accessible as they do stick open sometimes and need maintenance,
the instructions insist they must be above the highest overflow (usually basin height) but I dont understand why not just above lowest overflow (toilet pan height), perhaps someone can explain?
 
Knappers & Ben-gee, I appreciate both of your comments and observations, its good to here different view points especially about something that could potentially break and cause damage, time to call a truce, shake hands and make up😄

Thanks for all the advice, comments everyone, we see how it goes and I plan to make the temp boxing easily removable so I can keep and eye on it and if its all good then can box in properly in summer
 

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