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Guys please bear with me on this one, we have just moved into a new barn conversion with quite an extensive underfloor heating system single manifold 12 zones.

Its all ran off an oil fired merlin boiler with a feed up too normal radiators upstairs, its not a combi system so has hot water storage, expansion vessel etc.

We have a couple of problems which I need some advice on.

1. The whole system seems to be getting too hot, like the boiler just keeps heating everything, the continental UFH system is fitted with an isotherm valve which trips out when the water temp goes over 65, the isotherm thermostat always shows the water temp hitting 80 (guess as its off the scale) and hence the pump is automatically isolated so we are getting no flow in any zones until it all cools down - does this sound as though the temp limit stat has gone in the oil boiler or another problem ?

2. Also There are two zones on the manifold that receive no flow at all, I have removed the actuators and fully opened them, again absolutely no flow when the others are on full pelt..... what could be the problem here, ; luckily its the two smallest rooms (office and utility) could it be the size of the small loops being the problem ?

Our main challenge is we want to leave the UFH on 24 hours a day, but the flow temp just gets too hot and therefore we are getting no heating effect at all except in the radiators upstairs, which incidentally as soon as the upstairs thermostat calls for heat, these huge radiators heat up to scalding in a matter of seconds, so the whole system just appears to be running too hot.... any advice greatly appreciated.....
 
Is there not a blending valve on underfloor heating
Can you turn the stat down on oil boiler
Can you post some pics
 
there is a blending valve, the thermostat going off the scale is on the blending valve hence the problem, see attached pictures, obviously the manifold had a leak at some point but its all dry now, see the thermo on the mixer valve is off the scale and normally runs a lot hotter the system is off at the moment to cool down... zones.jpgthermo.jpgmanifold.jpg
 
Hiya Hope i can help

Sounds like there could be dirt in blending valve or its not working, isolate, remove ,clean and replace if nessecery. If its not shutting down it will just keep getting hotter the longer its on.
Isolate uhf and ensure you have flow through pipes on sections which arnt working using mains hose to flush them. Sludge could have entered from heating pipework. If u find its clear try turning off other circits on ufh and only running those two. They do have flow regulaters on some return valves, ensure these are open. Sometimes look like vent key.
From what ur saying It does sound like the boiler flow and return could be piped the wrong way round causing exesive heating temp. Or boiler stat problem. This could explain why underfloor blending valve is not working.
Hope this can help u out liam
 
Good advice above
The flow and return could be piped
back to front as the gage is on return side put your hand on the flow and return see what gets hot quickest?
 
The flow side is always significantly hotter than the return so think its piped the right way, but the blockage / problem seems to be on all the pipes scalding to the touch, I have an engineer coming to check the boiler for thermostat first.... thanks for all the useful advice guys...
 
You could have a defective main heat exchanger, by that I mean reverse circulation causing heat overload within the heat exchanger itself. The flow will still heat up as you would expect but if that flow isnt constant then that rapid temperature rise will prevent circulation from occuring inline with the amout of heat being pumped out. How old is the boiler ?
 
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