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I would really appreciate some information on the correct operation of this system. The system has two temperature controls - one for the maximum hot water temperature and one for the central heating temperature. The manual (http://www.vaillant.co.uk/stepone2/data/downloads/19/43/00/838402_06.pdf ) clearly shows these being set independently and, for example, shows the CH control set to minimum for summer use while the HW is set at a normal temperature. If I set my boiler like this, there is no hot water.
On my system, which was fitted just before the weather turned cold, I found that if the max CH temperature was set to low, then the maximum HW temperature acheived was low as well regardless of how the max HW temperature control on the boiler was set. The HW control seemed to do nothing. Subsequently I have found that HW temperature control really does do nothing. For HW production I have to have the max CH control turned up appropriately and today have had plenty of hot water with the HW control turned off! Set this way the "hot water supply active" icon is not seen. I have never seen the flashing hot water icon supposed to indicate heating demand from the cylinder regardless of how the HW control is set.

The first question is what do these separate controls actually do - a system boiler has only one output with HW and CH being separated by the zone control valves, not two outputs like a combi, so how can the boiler set different HW and CH maximum temperatures?

Assuming that the controls are supposed to operate independently as shown in the manual, how could my system be behaving as it is? Could it have been wired incorrectly so that the zone valves operate properly but that the only control input to the boiler is for CH? Might this be why the flashing hot water icon indicating heating demand from the cylinder has never been seen?

Thanks for any advice.
 
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has to be a wiring issue, any chance of you posting a diagram,
q1 the knobs will control a motorized valve probably
q2 answered by yourself.
 
I would really appreciate some information on the correct operation of this system. The system has two temperature controls - one for the maximum hot water temperature and one for the central heating temperature. The manual (http://www.vaillant.co.uk/stepone2/data/downloads/19/43/00/838402_06.pdf ) clearly shows these being set independently and, for example, shows the CH control set to minimum for summer use while the HW is set at a normal temperature. If I set my boiler like this, there is no hot water.
On my system, which was fitted just before the weather turned cold, I found that if the max CH temperature was set to low, then the maximum HW temperature acheived was low as well regardless of how the max HW temperature control on the boiler was set. The HW control seemed to do nothing. Subsequently I have found that HW temperature control really does do nothing. For HW production I have to have the max CH control turned up appropriately and today have had plenty of hot water with the HW control turned off! Set this way the "hot water supply active" icon is not seen. I have never seen the flashing hot water icon supposed to indicate heating demand from the cylinder regardless of how the HW control is set.

The first question is what do these separate controls actually do - a system boiler has only one output with HW and CH being separated by the zone control valves, not two outputs like a combi, so how can the boiler set different HW and CH maximum temperatures?

Assuming that the controls are supposed to operate independently as shown in the manual, how could my system be behaving as it is? Could it have been wired incorrectly so that the zone valves operate properly but that the only control input to the boiler is for CH? Might this be why the flashing hot water icon indicating heating demand from the cylinder has never been seen?

Thanks for any advice.
hot water stat does nothing on the system boilers as far as i know hot water temp is set on the cylinder stat
 
Do not interfere with those controls. All you should be usingi s the roomstat and programmer. By turning ch nob down you are reducing flow temp to the cylinder and risking legionella. That hot water indicator only works with vaillant own control system, as does the knob, via the v65 wiring centre which is the finest pair of rollox you have seen on any canine.
 
hot water stat does nothing on the system boilers as far as i know hot water temp is set on the cylinder stat
If the vaillant wiring centre is used with an ntc sensor for the cylinder the control on the boiler becomes the cylinder stat, but as its a megaflo you would have to use the built in stat so yes hot water temp set via cylinder.
 
After a bit more time with this I think the manual is just wrong - the boiler operates correctly just according to the CH setting - the HW control is irrelevant using a Honeywell control system and everything is fine with this set to off. Complained to Vaillant (for the time wasted) - no reply!
 
Hi, Just saw your post I have the same boiler with the exact same problem...

Just wondering did you find a solution to the solve this problem???

would really appreciate the help...
 
I think the manual is just wrong. Amazingly, as far as I can tell, Vaillant are supplying non-combi boilers with the fascia, controls and manual for combis. The alleged "hot water" control on the 637 does nothing and the system has been working extremely well now for 6 months using just the "central heating" control.

The notion that there can be two separate temperatures has to be nonsense as this system has only one hot water outflow - identical to the primary circuit in any traditional hot-water-cylinder based system.
 
If every one just read the manual all would be clear, vaillant do mention the controls not being relevant on their vented and system boilers.
 
this is a system boiler and the hot water knob doesnt do anything set the central heating control high because the megaflo needs flow temp 80 0c hope this helps
 
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