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hello!
while saving up for a new plumbing and heating installation for my new one bedroom flat, i did a lot of research on different boilers and systems, sought some advice, and settled on a viessmann vitodens 050-w, seems to offer a lot in terms of features and reliability, offers good value etc.
researched the weather compensation thing and this is definitely the route i'd like to go. however, a viessmann installer that quoted me yesterday said the 050-w doesn't have a timer function. i couldn't believe this would be possible on a £1k boiler, so checked with viessmann and right enough, it is not included on this model; i would need a 100-w to get timer functionality!
this annoys me for a number of reasons, mostly because a simple timer is a software function that cost viessmann nothing and it probably cost them more to disable the function at the design stage; i think this is a case of simply hampering basic functionality at the low end to make the next model up seem more desirable. you might say, well, that's business. but also, viessmann push weather compensation, it's kind of what they are all about, and this itself is part of a move away from room thermostats, trvs, on / off controls etc, yet viessmann say that to get a timer i'd need a third party control. viessmann don't even make a control that is compatible with the 050-w that has opentherm, so it would need to be an eph or similar.
the reason i want a timer is simply to get a setback feature for night time, maybe drop it 2 or so degrees when i go to bed. i don't want to set programs or holidays or heat the flat differently at the weekend. it just seems mental that i have to get a separate timer / room thermostat to get this.
surely the one thing you want if you are using weather compensation is a setback feature?!
can anyone offer any help, opinions or thoughts on this?
thanks!
while saving up for a new plumbing and heating installation for my new one bedroom flat, i did a lot of research on different boilers and systems, sought some advice, and settled on a viessmann vitodens 050-w, seems to offer a lot in terms of features and reliability, offers good value etc.
researched the weather compensation thing and this is definitely the route i'd like to go. however, a viessmann installer that quoted me yesterday said the 050-w doesn't have a timer function. i couldn't believe this would be possible on a £1k boiler, so checked with viessmann and right enough, it is not included on this model; i would need a 100-w to get timer functionality!
this annoys me for a number of reasons, mostly because a simple timer is a software function that cost viessmann nothing and it probably cost them more to disable the function at the design stage; i think this is a case of simply hampering basic functionality at the low end to make the next model up seem more desirable. you might say, well, that's business. but also, viessmann push weather compensation, it's kind of what they are all about, and this itself is part of a move away from room thermostats, trvs, on / off controls etc, yet viessmann say that to get a timer i'd need a third party control. viessmann don't even make a control that is compatible with the 050-w that has opentherm, so it would need to be an eph or similar.
the reason i want a timer is simply to get a setback feature for night time, maybe drop it 2 or so degrees when i go to bed. i don't want to set programs or holidays or heat the flat differently at the weekend. it just seems mental that i have to get a separate timer / room thermostat to get this.
surely the one thing you want if you are using weather compensation is a setback feature?!
can anyone offer any help, opinions or thoughts on this?
thanks!