Water pipes near gas and electric meter

[Plumbsy]

Hi

I was just wondering if anyone has some guidance on running water pipes near the gas and electric meter.

They are fixed on a wall ( not boxed in) in a cupboard under the stairs. The gas meter is dangling unsupported from its pipes! I think i will carefully put a support block under it. I need to run a hot and cold feed plus heating pipes through this cupboard to supply a new extension which has a downstairs WC.

I am presuming there are regulations that cover this with regards to allowed distances etc? I am struggling to find info!

The ideal place to run them (in copper) would be coming in through one wall then drop down to be clipped to the concrete floor side by side which would mean they would all run underneath the meters on the floor about 200mm from the wall. then back up with some nice bends to go through the wall on the other side. The pipes would be about 200mm from the main fuse and the meter is another 200mm above that.

Would this be acceptable?

Thanks in advance for any advice.

 

[SimonJohns]

All services should be 6" away from the electric fuees. To my knowledge. Don't quote me. I may be wrong

As far as the gas goes. You can't have any electric within 6". But water pipes are fine

I would get a GSR in to support the gas meter. The slightest knock can cause it to leak. You may even get it done for free by the gas board.

 

[AWheating]

yes i would call your gas supplier and report the gas meter is unsupported/dangerous.

 

[stevetheplumber]

i thought it was 50 mm min from gas to electric ?

 

[Plumbsy]

I found this on ukcopperboard.co.uk

Other services

Keep a gap of at least 25mm
between gas pipes and other services
and keep at least 150mm away from
electricity meters and fuse boxes.Where
electrical cross bonding is necessary, a
clamp is used to connect the protective
conductor near (ideally within 600mm)
the outlet side of the meter in
accordance with BS 7671 Requirements
for Electrical Installations.

This applies to gas installations, I guess the same applies to water then?

 

[SimonJohns]

I found this on ukcopperboard.co.uk

Other services

Keep a gap of at least 25mm
between gas pipes and other services
and keep at least 150mm away from
electricity meters and fuse boxes.Where
electrical cross bonding is necessary, a
clamp is used to connect the protective
conductor near (ideally within 600mm)
the outlet side of the meter in
accordance with BS 7671 Requirements
for Electrical Installations.

This applies to gas installations, I guess the same applies to water then?

i would say that if its good enough for gas, its good enough for water

 

[Plumbus]

Colleague asked this, sent him here, could not find the info so I dug it out and stuck it in the closest search term.

IEE BS7671 528-02-02 is light on specifics (OSG 16th p55).
Gas BS6891-2005 is usefully somewhat more specific.

BS6891-2005
8.16.2 Separation of installation pipework from other services

Where installation pipes are not separated by electrical insulating material, they shall be spaced as follows: a) at least 150 mm away from electricity meters and associated excess current controls, electrical switches or sockets, distribution boards or consumer units; b) at least 25mm away from electricity supply and distribution cables.


Where the property belongs to a council they may (and often do) have specific requirements.

Electrical insulating material is best fulfilled by a piece of conduit, such as where a buried cable must cross a gas pipe buried in same wall surface.

 

[kirkgas]

i thought it was 50 mm min from gas to electric ?

50mm doesnt appear anywhere
25mm from gas pipe to cable
150mm from gas pipe to any electrical equipment/switch/meter etc
(if you cant get the minimum clearences then simply insulate the gas pipe in the area within the 25/150, using electrical tape)

 

[plumberbd]

is it AR situation if the distance between gas pipe and electrical cable less than 25mm ?