Water softener

[plumb_know]

I have a customer who wants a water softener but I Can't find one small enough to go under her kitchen sink as there is also a sink disposal unit there. The space available under the sink is h=52cm w=26cm depth= 39cm. So does anyone know of a water softener I can get to fit in this space? I can't locate the softener anywhere else in the house as it will cause too much disruption routing a cold mains pipe to the sink and outside tap. The only other thing I thought about was locating it outside? If all pipe work was lagged sufficiently and the unit was put in housing which was also insulated do you thi this would've a possibility? Has anyone done anything similar?

Look ok forward to your ideas and comments
thanks

 

[helpsy]

You could look at a Monarch Scaleout. No need for a seperate untreated water supply.

 

[helpsy]

I have a brochure in the van....I have one in my house. No salt, water regeneration or electricity. Replace post filter annually( £10) and resin every 3-5 years depending on the CLEANLINESS of the water not the hardness. There are different models, 15mm tank fed, 22mm etc. you need a plus model if you're in East Anglia region. Off hand i believe it is 490mm high.

 

[helpsy]

Resin reputedly costs about £200.

 

[Chalked]

Can't you cut the base of the unit to the shape of the softner and sit it on the floor?

 

[rpm]

Can't you cut the base of the unit to the shape of the softner and sit it on the floor?

Seen it many times before but only with pumps

 

[Killy Bing]

Cut the bottom and the back, put it in another unit or remove the disposal unit.

if you want an extra pair of eyes id pop along.

you could look at something like nocalc but tbh i would say a harveys water softener.

 

[wetdrip]

Cut the bottom and the back, put it in another unit or remove the disposal unit.

if you want an extra pair of eyes id pop along.

you could look at something like nocalc but tbh i would say a harveys water softener.

I'd take KB up on that extra pair of eyes.
Nice offer and good man.

 

[kozak1968]

Put the softener outside like you suggested. They do make a housing for them. I know someone who fits kinetico softeners and they put them in a housing. Just Google it and it should give you more info.

 

[plumb_know]

Removing disposal unit is not an option as it is brand new, also I'm not having trouble finding one height wise to fit in, it is more width to fit in with the disposal unit? There is no back to the unit there are just the waste pipes that will back to the wall, so I can't go any further back either? I will take a look at the monarch scale out thanks. Also look into putting outside as this would be easiest option and still leave customer with kitchen cupboard. Thanks everyone

 

[plumb_know]

I will be going back soon, so will try and get a pic of cupboard while I'm there to aid with ideas

 

[parkesy_plumb]

im an installer , apparently according to twitter, for these guys ... go check them out they seem like a good bit of kit and reasonably priced Nocalc limescale inhibitors - UK supplier

 

[Killy Bing]

im an installer , apparently according to twitter, for these guys ... go check them out they seem like a good bit of kit and reasonably priced Nocalc limescale inhibitors - UK supplier

what's your twitter handle?

 

[parkesy_plumb]

what's your twitter handle?

@parkesplumbing ... i advise anyone in business to have a twitter, always getting inquiries and free stuff from it! and charlie mullins is hilarious when he goes off on one

 

[Reg Man]

First question is how many people normally in the property, to find out which capacity unit is required. You will definitely have to cut he bottom on the unit out as it is unlikely to carry the weight. The smallest unit that I know of which can do up to 14 people is a KINETICO twin port unit. Works on a mechanical water meter and switches alternately on the ports. Also no electrics on it, so not a lot to go wrong.

 

[Reg Man]

Kinetico 2020

 

[Killy Bing]

@parkesplumbing ... i advise anyone in business to have a twitter, always getting inquiries and free stuff from it! and charlie mullins is hilarious when he goes off on one

Watch me when i rip into a manufacturer!

 

[josh]

Have recently fitted a couple of 'aquabion' salt less water softeners, the same as an inline one so will have the space, no salt, no electric, no drain and no separate hard water to sink/outside taps.
only bad thing with them are the price! Not cheap but still cheaper than a traditional softener.
only time will tell if their worth their money.

 

[plumb_know]

Has anyone else used the nocalc scale inhibitors or aquaribion? Cheers regs man the property is a bungalow with one lady and kids that pop in and stay from time to time. I will, have a look at the kinetico.

Also so where her son fitted the sink disposal unit he couldn't fit the sink overflow pipe to the spigot on the disposal unit as overflow pipe to small, anyone know what I can use to connect the two together. Need a rubber sleeve or something? Anyone used something in the past to do this?

Thanks