Worcester Bosch or Vaillant?

[surv1v0r]

The Which? report on gas boiler brands (marginally) favours Worcester Bosch over Vaillant but the Engineer's replies seem to suggest that the Vaillant is easier to fix. A number of users have spoken to me very highly of the Worcester Bosch in the past few days - I accept that they can only speak of what they have got.

Is there any particular reason to favour one brand over the other (Vaillant ecoTEC plus 430 - vs- Worcester Bosch Green Star 30ri)?


On another front, I currently have a system involving a hot water cylinder. The quote I have had from British Gas (Vaillant) is for a replacement condensing boiler. A couple of people have asked why I haven't considered a doing away with the hot water cylinder and utilising a Combi Boiler. Does this make sense?


My apologies if the first question is impossible to answer and the second makes no sense - I am a complete novice at this. many thanks for any replies.

 

[Howsie]

Welcome to the forum.

I would strongly advise you to get three quotes and compare them. You'll very likely get a better install at a cheaper price than BG can or want to provide you.

Anything fitted properly will be fine. I wouldn't chose either, Intergas, ATAG or Viessmann would be mine but that just me.

 

[Atouchofgas]

Hello and welcome. Worcester are recommended by which as they pay them the most!
If you ask engineers you will get a different responses from them on which is the best boiler on the market.
As to having a combi, it depends on your house set up ie how many bathrooms, how many family members etc etc

 

[rpm]

Hello and welcome. Worcester are recommended by which as they allegedly pay them the most!
If you ask engineers you will get a different responses from them on which is the best boiler on the market.
As to having a combi, it depends on your house set up ie how many bathrooms, how many family members etc etc

Inserted one word before the forum gets sued unless you have proof of course in which case please forgive me.

 

[surv1v0r]

<SNIP>
As to having a combi, it depends on your house set up ie how many bathrooms, how many family members etc etc

Thanks for that.

House is semi-detached two floors and a loft conversion. Five bedrooms, bathroom, shower room, one very large reception room, large kitchen/dining room. 17 radiators in total. I would aim to fit a boiler suitable to the house rather than the current occupants.

 

[Atouchofgas]

Inserted one word before the forum gets sued unless you have proof of course in which case please forgive me.

Should have said in my opinion about Which and nothing to do with this forum

 

[Atouchofgas]

Combis aren't suit to property's of your size. I would post in the section looking for engineer [DLMURL="http://www.ukplumbersforums.co.uk/im-looking-plumber-gas-engineer/"]I'm looking for a Plumber or Gas Engineer[/DLMURL]
One of the forum guys might be in your neck of the woods

 

[surv1v0r]

Combis aren't suit to property's of your size. <SNIP>

Many thanks, I suspected that this might be the case. Additionally, with the present system I have always got the immersion heater to fall back on if there is a problem with the boiler.

 

[Riley]

Not a case of falling back really a combi will not deal with the demands and you will not be satisfied

 

[Howsie]

A large combi could deal with two hot outlets, not ideal but not impossible.

 

[Riley]

Still not the best solution

 

[Howsie]

Might be depending on the incoming main...

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Might be depending on the incoming main...

the only way i could see is use of a storage combi but still not the best

 

[Howsie]

A decent combi will flow enough for two hot outlets. 16l/m is enough for most, not the best but not shabby by any measure.

 

[quality]

The only way I could see is put an unvented cylinder and system boiler with appropriate controls

 

[Howsie]

The only way I could see is put an unvented cylinder and system boiler with appropriate controls

Or put a high performance combi in.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

A decent combi will flow enough for two hot outlets. 16l/m is enough for most, not the best but not shabby by any measure.

how thats less than 8lpm per shower most require 10lpm min

 

[Howsie]

how thats less than 8lpm per shower most require 10lpm min

That is hot water, don't forget it's blended with cold. Also remember the max flow for a shower outlet.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

That is hot water, don't forget it's blended with cold. Also remember the max flow for a shower outlet.

yea but you dont know his incoming flow rate so it could only be 16lpm so it will still be less

 

[Howsie]

Nope.

 

[surv1v0r]

If a Combi is not the best solution - but might be possible - for the life of me, I can't see why one would go that route.