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Lay down the scene:
15yr old Worcester 28CDi hemed into upstairs airing cupboard with about 50mm to sides and 150mm below boiler.
One burst expansion vessel with no reasonable option to fit a remote replacement.

One replacement vessel ordered up.

About 4hrs after removing pump, plate heat exchanger, APS, fan, flue box, lifting main heat exchanger and a lot of pushing and pulling the new vessel was in. There was a few coffee breaks though so could have maybe cut time down a bit.

Nightmare job I dont wish to repeat. Could not have made it any more difficult if they tried!:censored:
 
This is why I only do installs. I'd have a selection of screws and washers left over at the end of that. I haven't got the patients for it. It must've had multiple existing water leaks after 15 years surely?
 
I bet it was a good feeling when it was all done though? I've done it myself on an old Vaillant, boiler off the wall. Had to cut and then reconnect the gas pipe too. Took me ages, but felt good when it was all back up and running.
 
arran197 said:
I bet it was a good feeling when it was all done though? I've done it myself on an old Vaillant, boiler off the wall. Had to cut and then reconnect the gas pipe too. Took me ages, but felt good when it was all back up and running.
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But then your at home and the phone rings! Is it that boiler with a random drip? Do you answer the phone, decisions decisions.
 
Ermintrude said:
It's a hard life would have just removed boiler . And done it in floor
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and then never got the o rings that go in the jig to re-seal!

The most soul destroying times of my career have been spent stood in front of a CDI.
 
These ok lifting off wall? Looks to be a heavy lump of a boiler.
 
GrahamM said:
These ok lifting off wall? Looks to be a heavy lump of a boiler.
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Just cut the wall around it and push it out with the end of a hammer that way you dont actually have to touch the rechid thing.
 
The new compacts look awful to work on. I just don't understand why they make things hard to get at and why custards think they are the best I wouldn't put one in my house is what I tell people who ask for them :45:
 
They generally are pretty reliable and seem to have all the big companies fitting them so word gets around. But they are an absolute pain in the arse to work on. But the customer doesn't care about that, they don't have to try get their hands in amongst it all :)
 
Ive always liked worcester ( cdi classics anyway ) the i range is garbage and the compact is very plastic, when theyre fired up you hear the plastic creeking, defo going off them , i fit alot of classics, and yesterday fitted a 30cdi system boiler and which now comes with cable pre attatched , but because using splan see trying to get another cable in with the stupid position earth cables and that stupid plastic wire clamps, defo drive you mad, need better design than that p!sh frame, compared to the ideal simplicity to fit and work on but i will say the worcester burn better than ideal, and i suppose at least you can adjust the worcesters,
 
I hate Worcester products but I will admit to liking the fact they have the gas valve settings on the data badge and that as you say, you can adjust them. Not fond of the 'is what it is' approach that Ideal have.
 
Okay hands up I do favor Worcesters for installs, I like their Jigs.
But the do have some a r s e hole designs that I would never ''thank Worcester for''
 
I carry a couple of o ring packs for the Cdi in the van just incase I have to strip them apart.

What I hate on them is the ISO valves I was stupid and rushed so turned them off and both flow and return leaked! It would of been quicker and easier to take the boiler off the wall to swap them instead of stripping everything out of it.
 
northcarr said:
The new compacts look awful to work on. I just don't understand why they make things hard to get at and why custards think they are the best I wouldn't put one in my house is what I tell people who ask for them :45:
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My my thoughts exactly.
 
northcarr said:
The new compacts look awful to work on. I just don't understand why they make things hard to get at and why custards think they are the best I wouldn't put one in my house is what I tell people who ask for them :45:
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They are awfull to work on. Had to fit one while subbing with a mate the other day what a heap a $hi7. Stupid sliding expansion vessel that wants to fall out if its plastic runners when you hang the bracket and numerous other ridiculous design choices. I outright tell customers who ask for them that they must be mad and I wont fit them.
 
I've done that expansion vessel job about a dozen times now and can the boiler back up and running in about 2.5 hrs. No so the first time though! You have to follow the instructions on this job, there are no short cuts, which is where most fall down and where I did the first couple times. Now it gets stripped a new diaphram is also fitted and all the plastic manifolds are replaced, no messing about. Price 4 hrs and all those bits, the plastics are cheap. That way you get the job done on the second visit and its 100% for your customer and they think you are the mutts nuts when in reality all you did was not take any short cuts and just got the job done.

I like any of the classic range, great to work on. The heat exchanger is easy to service and parts are accessible. The Junior range are a pig to service and the heat primary heat exchangers are pants. Other than that they are pretty reliable.

First impressions of the Compacts for me aren't good due to access but they ditched the round heat exchanger which is good. The case fixings seem very fragile. I will have to get into the guts of one properly and see how easy they are to strip.
 
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