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There could be increased interest in plumbing courses after a source suggested young people are not learning enough skills to secure jobs.

Matthew Freeman, head of young people and communities at employment and skills specialists Working Links, claimed that it can be "extremely damaging" for youngsters to grow up without enough training to develop their career.

In his view, it can lead to all sorts of problems, such as resentment, despair and potentially criminal activity, which suggests that plumbing courses could help a person keep their lives on track.

"We must therefore ensure that all young people can gain valuable employment skills, good references and training so they can meet the demands of employers," explained Mr Freeman.

He claimed that having a profession can help individuals to maintain a sense of self-worth and structure in their lives.

These comments follow a study by the Audit Commission entitled Against All Odds, which indicated a new approach is needed to tackle the growing number of teenagers who are ending up neither in education, training nor employment.
 
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As a plumber Ive experianced, along with many others "resentment, despair and potentially criminal activity," its effected me as i want to become a teenager again.
 
I often wonder if we overlook the obvious in this country?

What is the point of training anybody for anything, if there is no work in the area they have trained for?

Its as silly as telling the unemployed to go find work, when there isn't any.

Lets get it right!

Get the work first and then moan if there are not enough people to do it or they will not do it.

And I mean full time "living wage jobs" not part time work.
 
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Yes, young people need to be trained in terms of plumbing. A plumber is required everywhere no matter what the economic conditions of a country are. Due to competition among employers for hiring the top plumber. A plumbing training course can undoubtedly give you a secure career.

 
Hi. The education of young people is very important. However "Trades" are not the target for teachers coaching young people. The teaching profession are driven by stats, the high achievers provide browny points for teachers / schools. As a result those youngster who are more practical than academic are left in limbo. Its not until there schooling has finished that the penny drops and they need to find a career. The plumbing trade is not to blame for the situation. When a plumber tries to help youngsters by offering a suck it and see situation, employment law, health and safety and income tax get in the way. With the diminishing budget schools are facing the situation will worsen, the only way forward for youngster is self help and not relying on institution for the answers. Good Luck
 
[....] the high achievers provide browny points for teachers / schools. As a result those youngster who are more practical than academic are left in limbo. Its not until there schooling has finished that the penny drops and they need to find a career. The plumbing trade is not to blame for the situation. When a plumber tries to help youngsters by offering a suck it and see situation, employment law, health and safety and income tax get in the way. With the diminishing budget schools are facing the situation will worsen, the only way forward for youngster is self help and not relying on institution for the answers. Good Luck

I couldn't agree more. Having been pushed through the university system from a grammar school background, only to discover I'm only really happy when I'm out getting my hands dirty, I am now in the process of setting up as self-employed general building maintenance worker, and trying to specialise in those areas of plumbing which do not require 'competency'. This comes after 8 years of trying to find work in the construction sector after my apprenticeship in air-con came to an abrupt end due to my employer going bust:32:. In the end, I decided to take my CIBT test and, and only because I was lucky enough to find someone who would sign the forms for me, got my CSCS card.

This meant I could now do labouring jobs and get some site experience, which was good, but often felt I wasn't learning much (especially when I got teamed up with two blokes whose only interest was finding scrap metal they could pinch and not getting any work done... that really made the day drag). Plus, there aren't any construction agencies where I am moving to in mid-Wales: the work available tends to be small domestic projects and repairs.

If I could 'just' take a plumbing course and become a competent person, that would be great, but, given the difficulties finding someone to give me the relevant experience to obtain the full NVQ, I'd very much risk being left high and dry.

Anyone think a water regs course might be beneficial to me (if I meet the entry requirements)?
 

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