thats bloody awfull.
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thats bloody awfull.
I got offered £45 per boiler (second fix, site work) hang Jig & boiler, connect relevant pipe work, core hole & make good.
Quite frankly I would rather have eaten my own liver.
And 130 quid for a bbu to combi. I can make plenty more sailing around in my van all day doing a bit servicing
Damn those figure are boiling my p i s s!
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That is a **** take that !!!
I got offered alot of conversions, Y Plans to combis, 45 min drive
£170, no extra's for know
Thanks but no thanks
leethegasman
Gas Engineer
I agree £130.00 for bbu to combi is far to low.
But would like to add I made a good living for 12 years on new build being paid on price work and boilers where £45.00 when I left.I first started new build work in 1996 I was paye supplied me with van diesel training average holiday pay and earnings related pension.in my first year I doubled my wages from £270.00 a week that I was paid by my previous company to £540.00 a week in my last five years on new builds the lowest I was paid a year was £42,000 and my best year was £52,000 no weekends 40 hours a week 2 hours paper work at home.the company was sold change of management and new building slowed down and they where my reasons for starting my own company.i would not go back to new build but at the time it was good and will be good again in the future (I would not put any one off working on new builds you can get very quick if you give it time )i also think if i had started my own business in my mid 20s I possibly would have failed with all the paper work quotes invoices ect. but I would say only use it as a stepping stone in your career was good for me but I previously worked and did my apprenticeship with a very good company and some really good chaps where quality was a must but wages basic.training for apprentices on new build is not to good.drawbacks are work is the same day in day out you will get no maintenance or brake down experience but you do learn to work fast and how to put in full systems. we always did a good job so had the pick of the best sites and loca.l but some gangs got paid more as they worked faster but there work was crap.if I was in my 20s and sites where busy I would do it all again no regrets.
leethegasman
Gas Engineer
There was about 70 plumbers on the new build company and you are correct shocking work man ship. I had the chance a no of times to go direct to house builders and tender for sites but did not as getting good labour is hard only 10 per cent where any good and that's bad odds.
I try to sta away from new builds, most sites thesedays are badly run, you get constanly let down in some way..
The last site I worked on, timber frame bungalows
Six Rad CH System, Bathroom, Kitchen Sink and Hob - was getting £250 first fix, £550 second fix
you could easily do 1 1/2 first fix a day
The last site I worked on, timber frame bungalows
Six Rad CH System, Bathroom, Kitchen Sink and Hob - was getting £250 first fix, £550 second fix
you could easily do 1 1/2 first fix a day
leethegasman
Gas Engineer
There was about 70 plumbers on the new build company and you are correct shocking work man ship. I had the chance a no of times to go direct to house builders and tender for sites but did not as getting good labour is hard only 10 per cent where any good and that's bad odds.
leethegasman
Gas Engineer
Still a lot more than a lot of day work lads working for company's.
I never seen the price list when I started for the new build company as I agreed a fixed weekly wage for 3 months then started on price if I had started on price on day one possible would not have stuck it out and when you look at the prices on paper there shocking and I seen so many lads not even last a week you have to give it time. lads that have done site work will know how fast you can get. lads that have not just think we make it up.
leethegasman
Gas Engineer
Still a lot more than a lot of day work lads working for company's.
I never seen the price list when I started for the new build company as I agreed a fixed weekly wage for 3 months then started on price if I had started on price on day one possible would not have stuck it out and when you look at the prices on paper there shocking and I seen so many lads not even last a week you have to give it time. lads that have done site work will know how fast you can get. lads that have not just think we make it up.
good doe but a headache
the second fixing was a joke, they didn't have the water or the gas hooked up so you was getting told to hang and pipe, as quick as poss so the bank could release more money
what should of been simple, turned into long, prolonged jobs
give me house bashing any day of the week, at least you get made a cupa aswell 😉
All this house bashing and quick installs is annoying to me as a breakdown engineer. Boilers aren't installed correctly, condense and prv pipes are wrong, flues not clipped, boilers literally thrown on the wall, flushing especially is not done correctly. I just wish you could get paid on quality and not just quantity, cause a lot of installers would be going home with less money.
The worst is when you can't get access to the boiler to do repairs or maintenance because it's too close to the wall or a door, or the electrics, just poor quality and not thought through enough.
The worst is when you can't get access to the boiler to do repairs or maintenance because it's too close to the wall or a door, or the electrics, just poor quality and not thought through enough.
I love it on new builds when you can't get the cover off a boiler cos of an over enthusiastic kitchen fitter. Once you have had a fight with it and finally get the cover off, you drop the board down to discover it only drops half way down before it hits another part of the cupboard, bonkers.
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smtplumbing
its just becoming a utter joke i am losing boiler swaps because of powerflushing and upgrading the gas supply 3 boilers i have priced in last month an abit because that you dont need to upgrade the gas supply other companys say you need need to upgrade it. i am getting fed up of this guff
I get this a lot aswel. I had one recently where the other two engineers who visited previously to quote said they would use an old gravity pipe to the cylinder that was totally boxed in as the new gas supply to the boiler (boiler moving to airing cupboard). It is then up to you to sell yourself and sound as if you are the expert, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. I explained the other engineers were wrong and actually got the job in the end even though I was more expensive due to actually running a new gas supply. Not always the case, as most people just want cheap and don't care about quality until its too late.
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