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Do not go anywhere near this company they will just rip you off
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Phoned Sheffield trading standards yesterday to see if these clowns have popped up on their radar. Bloke said nothing on their database, no complaints or owt but as they've now done a search it will be flagged if anyone does get stung.
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has anyone had any dealings with service magic keep getting e mails asking me to buy leads cos i slipped up and made a genral enquiry because the advert looked good and i had no work on at the time not sure how many they sell the lead to or if its even worth bothering because the custmers might just play the plumbers off on prices so you end up paying to do a job for next to nothing think i have just answered my own question but just on the off chance it works has anyone got any better ideas
don't join. you pay a lot for lead and 5 tradesmen can get customers details, not like rated people who gives 3, so similar carp. i had a call from service magic asking for some deposit etc.
Out of curiosity, just after I joined GSR (not in search yet) I had a call from some guy calling on behalf of some charity asking me to join their magazine with promising of advertising etc. So to me it seems like somebody in GSR is selling details.
Out of curiosity, just after I joined GSR (not in search yet) I had a call from some guy calling on behalf of some charity asking me to join their magazine with promising of advertising etc. So to me it seems like somebody in GSR is selling details.
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Like someone once said to me the only job you should pay for is a b**w job.
Hi had them a while back and no looki what was in my in box today...
Appogies in advance for the lenth of it...
Dear Sir/ Madam
I have been asked to speak to Companies in the area with a view to implementing someone suitable to look after a number of tenanted properties on behalf of our clients. These are located in and around the N postal code area. This is in relevance to the ongoing gas works and subsequent maintenance requirements over the next 24 months.
For the last 2 or 3 weeks I have been in contact with a number of engineers and we are slowly compiling our shortlist of interested parties. If the below Contract sounds like something that could benefit your company and/or you would like some further information, then please do not hesitate to get back in touch. All the information is detailed below, if you could read through it carefully and get in touch that would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Drew Lewis
Contract Ref 131081
Postcode area (N) London
Duration 2 Years (24months)
REMINDER
What we are
NUS Ltd are fast becoming the UK's Leading expert in Facility Management for a wide range of National corporate blue chip Clients, we offer our clients a wide range of services ranging from full property Maintenance to IT to even getting a property Valued for sale or rent so we make it effortless for our clients to get the work done to the high standards they expect.
The Clients
The Clients we hold contracts with are some of the largest in the UK with our company working with Banking Groups, Insurance Companies, Student Accommodation and Construction Companies to name a few.
What We Want.
NUS Ltd are looking for a gas safe registered Engineer/Company in the N area to cover a work load of 477 Properties incorporated in to your diary over the 2 year period of this domestic Contract.
What you will be asked to do.
If you were selected for this contract NUS Ltd would require you to be able to cover -
Landlord Safety Certificate (CP12) As required on a yearly basis within rental properties will also provide a Service at the same time.
Breakdown/Repairs Covering all breakdowns and repairs with in Properties.
Callouts Providing a 24hrs Response time to our clients (not 24hrs)(optional)
Plumbing Covering all Plumbing work within properties
Installations Services - Bathroom Install (Optional), Boiler Installs.
Prices for work will be explained to company.
Payment Terms
NUS Ltd work to a strictly 30 day payment terms Paid directly in to the Contractors Account.
Please click this link to view our testimonials by contractors who are currently working on such contracts.
Audit
The Contract will be based on a 24 Month Period and there will be an audit done every 3 months on 3.5% of the work. This is something that our clients have requested that we are required to do as part of the agreement we have in place. As you will probably imagine, this in turn also makes sure all service levels are being met and ensure all relevant feedback is being given to all parties involved.
Contracts Fee
The N Postal Code area contract is completely free to apply for and there is absolutely no fee required in order to find out more information or to be considered for the contract.
The Contractors Fee is in place as we no longer take any commission from our Contractors for any work that is issued out and completed throughout the duration of this contract. This is due to previous experiences when running similar contracts within the UK.
In the past we have found by only working on a commission basis, there is no firm level of commitment in place, resulting in the level of service we were receiving and the reliability of the Engineer to be much lower than what both ourselves and our Clients would expect.
By stopping the commission structure and implementing the Contractors Fee at the start of the contract, we have now established that the commitment levels between ourselves and our Contractors have drastically improved resulting in better workmanship and a better all round services being offered to our clients.
Also from a completely selfish point of view, we have to ensure we are attracting the best possible Companies to these contracts and removing the timewasters from the process from day one.
The Contractors Fee for the N postal code area is a one off fee of £1823+VAT.
This is only made payable for the contract if you were to be the selected Company and implemented for the contract. This would be paid on commencement of the contract only, there are no more financial obligations throughout the duration of the contract.
If you feel that you are the right company or engineer for this contract and can deliver the service requirements for our National Clients and would like to find out more regarding the Contract opportunity then please either fill in the Vendors form by clicking the link provided and a member of the team will contact you back and cover all you enquiries and explain the types of work and the areas in question that you will be covering.
If you feel this contract is for you please fill out the vendors application form as Linked Contractors Vendor form online or call me Drew Lewis on 01563 525 992.
Appogies in advance for the lenth of it...
I have been asked to speak to Companies in the area with a view to implementing someone suitable to look after a number of tenanted properties on behalf of our clients. These are located in and around the N postal code area. This is in relevance to the ongoing gas works and subsequent maintenance requirements over the next 24 months.
For the last 2 or 3 weeks I have been in contact with a number of engineers and we are slowly compiling our shortlist of interested parties. If the below Contract sounds like something that could benefit your company and/or you would like some further information, then please do not hesitate to get back in touch. All the information is detailed below, if you could read through it carefully and get in touch that would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Drew Lewis
Contract Ref 131081
Postcode area (N) London
Duration 2 Years (24months)
REMINDER
What we are
NUS Ltd are fast becoming the UK's Leading expert in Facility Management for a wide range of National corporate blue chip Clients, we offer our clients a wide range of services ranging from full property Maintenance to IT to even getting a property Valued for sale or rent so we make it effortless for our clients to get the work done to the high standards they expect.
The Clients
The Clients we hold contracts with are some of the largest in the UK with our company working with Banking Groups, Insurance Companies, Student Accommodation and Construction Companies to name a few.
What We Want.
NUS Ltd are looking for a gas safe registered Engineer/Company in the N area to cover a work load of 477 Properties incorporated in to your diary over the 2 year period of this domestic Contract.
What you will be asked to do.
If you were selected for this contract NUS Ltd would require you to be able to cover -
Landlord Safety Certificate (CP12) As required on a yearly basis within rental properties will also provide a Service at the same time.
Breakdown/Repairs Covering all breakdowns and repairs with in Properties.
Callouts Providing a 24hrs Response time to our clients (not 24hrs)(optional)
Plumbing Covering all Plumbing work within properties
Installations Services - Bathroom Install (Optional), Boiler Installs.
Prices for work will be explained to company.
Payment Terms
NUS Ltd work to a strictly 30 day payment terms Paid directly in to the Contractors Account.
Please click this link to view our testimonials by contractors who are currently working on such contracts.
Audit
The Contract will be based on a 24 Month Period and there will be an audit done every 3 months on 3.5% of the work. This is something that our clients have requested that we are required to do as part of the agreement we have in place. As you will probably imagine, this in turn also makes sure all service levels are being met and ensure all relevant feedback is being given to all parties involved.
Contracts Fee
The N Postal Code area contract is completely free to apply for and there is absolutely no fee required in order to find out more information or to be considered for the contract.
The Contractors Fee is in place as we no longer take any commission from our Contractors for any work that is issued out and completed throughout the duration of this contract. This is due to previous experiences when running similar contracts within the UK.
In the past we have found by only working on a commission basis, there is no firm level of commitment in place, resulting in the level of service we were receiving and the reliability of the Engineer to be much lower than what both ourselves and our Clients would expect.
By stopping the commission structure and implementing the Contractors Fee at the start of the contract, we have now established that the commitment levels between ourselves and our Contractors have drastically improved resulting in better workmanship and a better all round services being offered to our clients.
Also from a completely selfish point of view, we have to ensure we are attracting the best possible Companies to these contracts and removing the timewasters from the process from day one.
The Contractors Fee for the N postal code area is a one off fee of £1823+VAT.
This is only made payable for the contract if you were to be the selected Company and implemented for the contract. This would be paid on commencement of the contract only, there are no more financial obligations throughout the duration of the contract.
If you feel that you are the right company or engineer for this contract and can deliver the service requirements for our National Clients and would like to find out more regarding the Contract opportunity then please either fill in the Vendors form by clicking the link provided and a member of the team will contact you back and cover all you enquiries and explain the types of work and the areas in question that you will be covering.
If you feel this contract is for you please fill out the vendors application form as Linked Contractors Vendor form online or call me Drew Lewis on 01563 525 992.
NUS Limited - testimonials and this is the ink to the testimonials!!
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ecowarm
Look up the first one on gas safe webesite.............. only 1 engineer on there! but according to the testimonial
Testimonials
I***************e Ltd, Manchester (L** *****l): Gas Safe: 5*****
I have been working with NUS Ltd since August 2011 and our working relationship has grown from strength to strength. My Company offers a full General Maintenance package ranging from basic plumbing right through to full electrical installs and I have been receiving all types of work from this contract from day one.
When I started with NUS, I only had 10 Engineers employed directly but over the past few months with the workload I have been provided from this contract, I now employ 27 Engineers from various sectors to cover the work from NUS and my own personal contracts and to date it has been a great business decision to accept the contract offer from NUS.
The initial fee that I had to pay when awarded the contract was made back and more within the first month of taking on the contract and I have never looked back from the day I was awarded the contract.
I would recommend NUS Ltd to any other Company that is looking for a consistent level of work and the opportunity to grow their Business.
Testimonials
I***************e Ltd, Manchester (L** *****l): Gas Safe: 5*****
I have been working with NUS Ltd since August 2011 and our working relationship has grown from strength to strength. My Company offers a full General Maintenance package ranging from basic plumbing right through to full electrical installs and I have been receiving all types of work from this contract from day one.
When I started with NUS, I only had 10 Engineers employed directly but over the past few months with the workload I have been provided from this contract, I now employ 27 Engineers from various sectors to cover the work from NUS and my own personal contracts and to date it has been a great business decision to accept the contract offer from NUS.
The initial fee that I had to pay when awarded the contract was made back and more within the first month of taking on the contract and I have never looked back from the day I was awarded the contract.
I would recommend NUS Ltd to any other Company that is looking for a consistent level of work and the opportunity to grow their Business.
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All ********, pass this on.
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jhon lennon
thanks for the advice about service magic thought as much but you have confirmed my doubts and yes i had a similar call from a magazine shortly after joining gas safe but was then as now skint so couldnt do it anyway advertised in my local paper but their was 27 other plumbers advertising the same week so that was a waste of time and money the most success i have had was having two thousand flyers printed at a cost of 45 quid and going door to door posting them myself hard work but it paid off got a good few jobs from it and the people i worked for passed on my number to friends and neighbour s and things slowly got going but still have more days with no work than i would like but i am sure that is true for most of us not sure if it was gas safe who passed on my details to the magazine though because anyone can look on the internet to check if people are really gas safe registered and as advertisers are struggling just like the rest of us they could have got our details that was cheers and good luck
I am well jealous, you were offered a better deal than me..:laugh3:
NUS Ltd are looking for a gas safe registered Engineer/Company in the NG area to cover a work load of 465 Properties incorporated in to your diary over the 2 year period of this domestic Contract.
The Contractors Fee for the Nottingham area is a one off fee of £1830+VAT.
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rodders
I like how it said;
The N Postal Code area contract is completely free to apply for and there is absolutely no fee required in order to find out more information or to be considered for the contract.
but the went on to say;
The Contractors Fee for the N postal code area is a one off fee of £1823+VAT.
So its "free" to apply but costs £1823 + VAT is your given the contract. How many people do you think they turn down? lol
The N Postal Code area contract is completely free to apply for and there is absolutely no fee required in order to find out more information or to be considered for the contract.
but the went on to say;
The Contractors Fee for the N postal code area is a one off fee of £1823+VAT.
So its "free" to apply but costs £1823 + VAT is your given the contract. How many people do you think they turn down? lol
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I've had the same email for IM postcode. My fee would be £1813+VAT. That is cheaper than for the N postcode which proves it's a scam because everything is alot dearer on the Isle of Man than in England.
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smith9998
COMPLETE SCAM! Proof can be provided....
Elaborate!
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glenno1
NUS-National useless scammers
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Mario27*
DO NOT PAY THESE SCAMMERS A PENNY!!!!!
We fell for it hook line and sinker, unfortunately before any forums for this company were in place. We were promised work in the electrical and plumbing & heating field. Nothing!!
We have paid £2k for nothing. An advertisment in our local paper would have drummed up more business.
Strange and almost funny thing (if I could laugh after loosing 2 grand) they sent us another email about 3 weeks ago, the standard email I think quite a few people have received on here saying they have work for our area. I dont think they realised we had already paid them,. When I responded saying yes sending me the names and addresses of all these properties that need work doing I got no reply from them (suprise suprise).
Its hard enough trying to keep afloat in this day and age without having these scammers taking your hard earned cash.
My hubby has fell for a few scams since setting up the business eager to make it work. The lesson I have learnt is if they call you dont bother with them. If you want work/advertising look your self.
* and i do think the imput from the bathroom guy on here is working for NUS. Just my opinion!
We fell for it hook line and sinker, unfortunately before any forums for this company were in place. We were promised work in the electrical and plumbing & heating field. Nothing!!
We have paid £2k for nothing. An advertisment in our local paper would have drummed up more business.
Strange and almost funny thing (if I could laugh after loosing 2 grand) they sent us another email about 3 weeks ago, the standard email I think quite a few people have received on here saying they have work for our area. I dont think they realised we had already paid them,. When I responded saying yes sending me the names and addresses of all these properties that need work doing I got no reply from them (suprise suprise).
Its hard enough trying to keep afloat in this day and age without having these scammers taking your hard earned cash.
My hubby has fell for a few scams since setting up the business eager to make it work. The lesson I have learnt is if they call you dont bother with them. If you want work/advertising look your self.
* and i do think the imput from the bathroom guy on here is working for NUS. Just my opinion!
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Ivor Bates
And here's another one doing the rounds....
My name is Fran Hart and I am a Contract Liaison Consultant for MTM Group UK, we are leading the way in Multitrade Maintenance contracts throughout the UK. I have been tasked with securing a contractor, company or individual for the Romford area.
We are looking for a company who can effectively be responsible for the ongoing maintenance over the next 30 months of domestic rental properties and refurbishments.
I have been speaking to companies for the last few days now with a view to confirming suitability for the work within the Contract. Would this be something that you may be able to accommodate. All the contract details that you would require are detailed below, also I have attached a hyper link to our website to allow you to see what we do as a company if you have any further questions or queries please don’t hesitate to contact myself directly on the details below or a member of our highly trained team who will be able to deal with your enquiry quickly and efficiently.
Many Thanks
Fran Hart
www.mtm-group.co.uk
Here was my reply to them.
Unfortunately having done the simplest checks on MTM, via both whois and companies house so far you have not filed any company accounts since incorporation, you have various addresses listed and your website has no web presence and your initial email has too much waffle in it for an introduction, As for your testimonials, there not exactly the best are they? C2C have been disolved and restarted, james handyman services could be anyone in the country called james so all in all it looks like and smells like a scam….
I'm still waiting for a reply........
Finally if you Google the address listed on their website you will find the only people trading at the property will be either local government type organisations or mental health / mediation groups..........
My name is Fran Hart and I am a Contract Liaison Consultant for MTM Group UK, we are leading the way in Multitrade Maintenance contracts throughout the UK. I have been tasked with securing a contractor, company or individual for the Romford area.
We are looking for a company who can effectively be responsible for the ongoing maintenance over the next 30 months of domestic rental properties and refurbishments.
I have been speaking to companies for the last few days now with a view to confirming suitability for the work within the Contract. Would this be something that you may be able to accommodate. All the contract details that you would require are detailed below, also I have attached a hyper link to our website to allow you to see what we do as a company if you have any further questions or queries please don’t hesitate to contact myself directly on the details below or a member of our highly trained team who will be able to deal with your enquiry quickly and efficiently.
Many Thanks
Fran Hart
www.mtm-group.co.uk
Here was my reply to them.
Unfortunately having done the simplest checks on MTM, via both whois and companies house so far you have not filed any company accounts since incorporation, you have various addresses listed and your website has no web presence and your initial email has too much waffle in it for an introduction, As for your testimonials, there not exactly the best are they? C2C have been disolved and restarted, james handyman services could be anyone in the country called james so all in all it looks like and smells like a scam….
I'm still waiting for a reply........
Finally if you Google the address listed on their website you will find the only people trading at the property will be either local government type organisations or mental health / mediation groups..........
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Ho look they are base'd in Scotland to ! why is that ? Is there some loophole in Scotish law that lets them run these Scam's ?? No mention of an up-front payment in there email, wounder if it's the same amount as NUS, may just email them to see what they come up with.
Right thats the email sent to them, lets see what comes back.
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Mario27*
I posted on another forum regarding NUS on here a year ago and there seems to be so many people that have fell foul to these Nasty (to put it nicely!) people. I think we need to get together and contact Trading Standards as a group of businesses.
I have dug out some old paperwork and found emails from another company that tried to con us out of £1495 - Worldwide Marketing Solutions. My husband agreed to a 30 day trial, we phoned them to say it wasnt working for us and they continued to charge us. Luckly there were no funds in the account so they couldnt take the money. They just billed us for £1495, threatening court action. They couldnt provide any evidence we had agreed to continue marketing with them and when I asked for a copy of the call they kept referring to they told me if i paid £495b to settle they would send me the call! Thankfully I stood by my guns even though they were threatening court action. Just kept saying see you in court then. They soon went away!
It makes me so mad there are so many companies out there making false promises and its the innocent hard working folk that are losing out!
I have dug out some old paperwork and found emails from another company that tried to con us out of £1495 - Worldwide Marketing Solutions. My husband agreed to a 30 day trial, we phoned them to say it wasnt working for us and they continued to charge us. Luckly there were no funds in the account so they couldnt take the money. They just billed us for £1495, threatening court action. They couldnt provide any evidence we had agreed to continue marketing with them and when I asked for a copy of the call they kept referring to they told me if i paid £495b to settle they would send me the call! Thankfully I stood by my guns even though they were threatening court action. Just kept saying see you in court then. They soon went away!
It makes me so mad there are so many companies out there making false promises and its the innocent hard working folk that are losing out!
CONTRACT DECISION DATE: MONDAY 2[SUP]ND[/SUP] JULY 2012
Hi my name is James Steven from MTM Group UK, I have been speaking to companies within the area over the last 10 days or so with reference to the maintenance contract, there has been previous information sent out. We will be implementing a company on Monday the 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] of July 2012. If you would like to be considered for the contract or would like some further information if you give me a call or fill in the online contractor application form, myself or a member of my team will get back to you shortly.
A draft contract and references will be supplied to all interested parties that meet the contractual criteria requirements.
Many Thanks
James
Maintenance Contract Details
The portfolios of properties are provided by a number of our clients and they cover the area in and around North West London. We do not wish to have in place a company who resides out with this area as this would lead to delays in reaching jobs, excessive traveling and costs and of course commitment levels will wane as the Contract could take the company away from their existing customer base.
The following areas are part of the requirements to be covered: HA and surrounding
There may be opportunities out with these locations for further works and this can be considered at a later date. If a company can cover further afield then we would look at this after the initial Contract has been allocated.
We currently have just over 480 properties located within the North West London area although we do have the scope to increase this beyond the 750 mark. These range from Domestic rentals, Student accommodation lets and Void properties (provided by Banking Clients and Insurance Companies) we are looking for a company that is in a position to expand and grow and we would hope to provide further properties to that company throughout the Contract. Inevitably there may be no further room within your business and we would then look to take on a further company within the area to accommodate the extra workload.
Client Requirements
We have been asked, as part of our Contractual agreements to fulfill all maintenance requirements on our client’s properties.
Ultimately we require providing trades to cover anything from planned maintenance, emergency repairs, periodic inspections, refurbishments etc.
The range of specific duties within these provided services will include:
• Plumbing Works
• Gas Services
• Electrical
• Plastering/Rendering
• Joinery
• Installations
• Building Works
• General Domestic Maintenance
MTM Group Requirements
We are specifically looking for a company covering the local area and beyond, who can be relied upon to provide these ongoing services. For the next 30 months we would be looking to install a responsible maintenance company who can provide very high customer services, and can ultimately build strong relationships with our Clients.
Not every company we speak with will be suitable and provisions can be made to accommodate companies who may be able to provide part of the requirements. We understand the volume of works may be too much for some and this can result in the area and portfolio being cut down to fit in with your individual capabilities. We would much rather each and every trade requirement is covered to the highest standard and if this results in more than one company being put in place and this is in the best interests of the Client, then we will have individual trades rather than an all in one.
Payment Terms
We believe payments should be made correctly and on time. This is paramount to the continued relationship that will be built between all parties.
We pay our Contractors strictly within 30 days. This is paid directly to the Contractor by BACS.
Contract Payment Deposit
There is a financial element to the Contract, which is applicable to the awarded contractor (and only the awarded contractor).
This allows us to have genuine commitment from our Contractor and ongoing, we have a solid base for all parties.
Our clients only wish to work with affiliated companies and we are able to effectively weed out the good and the bad from the process early on and for the Contractors they benefit from having the security of work and commitment from ourselves to fully assist throughout the Contract.
Most companies will look at the Contract as an opportunity to expand and grow their business, giving consistent work and variety in their daily diary. By having a financial commitment our Clients are ensuring Contractors turn up when they are supposed to and complete the works to the Standards required.
Example-
An example of how this is applied in other ways would be as a deposit on a rental property for instance. This is completely necessary to ensure provisions are taken place to look after the property throughout the rental agreement and both sides are protected should the other default on their responsibilities. This is something that is becoming more and more popular within the industry and over the coming months will be implemented by other national organisations to safeguard their investments.
Currently companies like B&Q and also Homebase have contractor payments in place for engineers fitting their kitchens and bathrooms supplied to customers purchasing them from their stores. The reason for this is simple “commitment”, they, like us have a reputation and a standard to adhere to, and this must be met by all parties involved to allow total competence in everything we do. I’m sure you will be able to appreciate this and also the reasoning behind it.
We also have safeguards in place and along with the guarantees within the Contract for the work; the Payment is also refunded should there be issues arising from services provided.
If you feel that you are the right company or engineer for this contract and can deliver the service requirements for our National Clients and would like to find out more regarding the Contract opportunity then please either call direct on 01294 274802 or fill in our Vendors form by clicking the link:
http://mtm-group.co.uk/form.html and a member of the contracts team will be in touch with you ASAP.
James Steven
MTM Group Ltd
Contracts Consultant
Direct : 01294 274802
E Mail: [email protected]
Web: www.mtm-group.co.uk
Company Address:
Sovereign House
Academy Road
Irvine
KA12 8RL
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These threads rumble on but lets have it right, who the hell pays someone they've never had face to face contact with over 2 grand?! Come on. Common sense needs to play a part in decision making like this surely?!
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