Back boiler without gas fire

[johnnyplumb]

Sorry Johnny, Worked directly with Baxi with this one in conjunction with CORGI at the time, when I was a regulator in the industry. A CORGI Technical Bulletin was published at this time with regards to using the gas fire on a redundant back boiler. Baxi may have changed their view on this now, but the guidance was given in the 1990's and agree it is not an ideal situation but does not make it unsafe if you cap off properly and it passes all the statutory checks. Common sense used, because you don't have to have the BBU on if you use the fire under normal conditions. The reason for capping the boiler gas valve, is to prevent any risk of the BBU firing up when its not connected to the water side of the heating.

best to do what baxi says though imo,
it would be difficult to explain at an inquest, why you ignored manufacturers instructions, lawyers are not interested in common sense :yesnod:

 

[Reg Man]

best to do what baxi says though imo,
it would be difficult to explain at an inquest, why you ignored manufacturers instructions, lawyers are not interested in common sense :yesnod:

Does a home owner ever use their gas fire with the BBU turned off?

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

What about leaving boiler open or drilling the block. No one wants a pressure cooker!

why would you want to drill out a hex in a redundant Bermuda?go back and think about what you just said its not solid fuel ,my take on its the same as steve and steve or diamond gas and regman to the rest of you riff raff

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

best to do what baxi says though imo,
it would be difficult to explain at an inquest, why you ignored manufacturers instructions, lawyers are not interested in common sense :yesnod:

they have changed there mind again now and reverted back to the TB reg man was referring too

 

[Ermintrude]

why would you want to drill out a hex in a redundant Bermuda?go back and think about what you just said its not solid fuel ,my take on its the same as steve and steve or diamond gas and regman to the rest of you riff raff

Belt and braces. If anything changed and cast was not able to vent it would get messy. What if and idiot lit fire in catchment space or a fire dfe was badly fitted into space? If I can't remove hex it always gets drilled. Just I was thought that the next person may not be as sensible so be sure what you leave is bomb proof!

 

[johnnyplumb]

they have changed there mind again now and reverted back to the TB reg man was referring too

they'd need to change the boilers installation instructions or it wont mean a jot,
regs have'nt changed

 

[Reg Man]

[h=1]TB 98 March 2000 Combined Appliances[/h]

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Combinedappliances are available in various formats including: -

§ Fire/Back Boilers
§ Fire/Back Circulators
§ Warm Air Heaters withIntegral Circulator

Wherea combined appliance is designed to allow sections to operate independently itshould only be used in the form as intended by the manufacturer and strictly inaccordance with the manufacturers instructions and recommendations.


[h=2]Fire/Back Boilers[/h]
Fire/back boilers shouldonly be used as a complete unit and under no circumstances should the combinedappliance be used with either the fire or back boiler unit removed. If the backboiler unit becomes redundant but the customer still wishes the use the firefront, the advice of the manufacturer should be sought. Continued use of a gas fire is allowed, providing the boilers gas components have been removed and the gas supply to the boiler sealed off. Additionally The gas fire must pass all statutory appliance safety checks.

 

[arran197]

Definitely not The fire and the BBU go together. Remove the fire a the BBU is then unsafe.

I don't think you understood what I was saying, leave both in place and only light the bbu up for service.

 

[Reg Man]

I don't think you understood what I was saying, leave both in place and only light the bbu up for service.

OH' Yes I didn't read your post properly. Now I have, Why would you want to do this? You can use the fire without the boiler being turned on. The boiler will never over heat with the gas fire on, the boiler will never get hot because all the boilers gas valve components and burner have gone. Just leave it and service the fire as normal when required.

 

[Reltub]

What is all this tripe about 'compensation' etc. as long as the boiler has been properly capped off and the fire passes all tests, what the hell could possibly happen as a direct result of capping the boiler!? So much BS flying around people lose sight of COMMON SENSE.