Boiler distance from kitchen sink

[stevetheplumber]

all recent boilers include an ip rating in the specs

 

[AlexGas]

I think thats a recommendation & good practice , its not a regulation & in reality not always practical . There is no specific regulation concerning this . ( Waste disposal units ? )

From current BS 6798:2009

Specification for installation and maintenance of gas-fired boilers of rated input not exceeding 70 kW net

5.6 Electricity supplies and wiring
5.6.1 The electrical installation shall conform to BS 7671.
5.6.2 Electricity supplies to the boiler and any ancillary controls shall be installed in accordance with the manufacturer’s instructions.
5.6.3 The point of connection to the mains electricity shall be readily accessible and the method of connection shall provide electrical isolation of the boiler and all ancillary electrical controls by either:
a) a double-pole switched fused connection unit; or
b) a fused three-pin plug and an unswitched shuttered socket outlet (refer to 5.3.5.4 if the boiler is going to be installed in a bathroom).

COMMENTARY AND RECOMMENDATIONS ON 5.6.3
The Institution of Electrical Engineers Electrician’s Guide to the Building Regulations [17] advises that a minimum of 300 mm should be allowed from the edge of kitchen sinks and draining boards to the boiler’s point of connection to the mains electricity to reduce the risk of being splashed.

 

[AlexGas]

300mm, that's to your fused spur or the plug.

 

[rabbitsaddle]

' Advises ' ,,,, not regulation . I'm not suggesting that this isn't good advise or practice . In the real world though it isn't often achievable . A small kitchen , tall fridge / freezer ( 600 mm ) cooker ( 600 mm) , usually a window , often boiler ( pipework ) can be left with 1500mm or so to position say 4 sockets , cooker switch , f/spurs for w/m , f/f , programmer etc, this can be even more hazardous . Its another situation where professional judgement & risk assessment needs to be used .
If the Regulations are followed , it will be safe.
BTW Ive just switched the kettle on while washing the dishes ,,,,, 1200mm:rockon2: ,,,,,, & I lived

 

[AlexGas]

Some have seen this one before…
Sinks can be handy…

 

[AlexGas]

' Advises ' ,,,, not regulation . I'm not suggesting that this isn't good advise or practice . In the real world though it isn't often achievable . A small kitchen , tall fridge / freezer ( 600 mm ) cooker ( 600 mm) , usually a window , often boiler ( pipework ) can be left with 1500mm or so to position say 4 sockets , cooker switch , f/spurs for w/m , f/f , programmer etc, this can be even more hazardous . Its another situation where professional judgement & risk assessment needs to be used .
If the Regulations are followed , it will be safe.
BTW Ive just switched the kettle on while washing the dishes ,,,,, 1200mm:rockon2: ,,,,,, & I lived

Did you know that BS7671 or the 17[SUP]th[/SUP] regulations are non-statutory?

 

[Dotty]

Did you know that BS7671 or the 17[SUP]th[/SUP] regulations are non-statutory?

No.

But part P of the Building Regulations 2010, and part P1 in particular, is.

Part P actually states that "Electrical installations should be designed and installed in accordance with BS 7671:2008 incorporating Amendment No 1:2011."

 

[rabbitsaddle]

I did , its probably the most recognised way of complying with the EAWR which are ,

I am on the right forum here aren't I :54:

 

[AlexGas]

No.

But part P of the Building Regulations 2010, and part P1 in particular, is.

Part P actually states that "Electrical installations should be designed and installed in accordance with BS 7671:2008 incorporating Amendment No 1:2011."

From the 17th:

Regulation 114.1 The Regulations are non-statutory. They may, however, be used in a court of law in evidence to claim compliance with a statutory requirement. The relevant statutory provisions are listed in Appendix 2 and include Acts of Parlament and Regulations made thereunder. In some cases statutory regulations may be accompanied by Codes of Practice approved under Section 16 of the Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974. …

 

[AlexGas]

I guess we have no choice

 

[rabbitsaddle]

No ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, answer to original question arty:

 

[lame plumber]

the highway code isnt law but advisory as well, but just break the advisory rules and see what plod can do to you in court!

 

[rabbitsaddle]

the highway code isnt law but advisory as well, but just break the advisory rules and see what plod can do to you in court!

Elements of it have been taken into law tho haven't they ? Speed limits etc
Deffo on the wrong forum :cheesy:

Anyone know if its too early to start baking xmas cakes :crowngrin:

 

[rabbitsaddle]

& you won't get taken to court as long as you install to current regs , using sound engineering judgement taking into account environment ( which is in regs ) . If there's a potential for danger this clearly has to be addressed but the answer to the original ( generic ) question is , no

 

[AWheating]

many boiler ip ratings are alter'd when internal controls are fitted.

 

[lame plumber]

Elements of it have been taken into law tho haven't they ? Speed limits etc
Deffo on the wrong forum :cheesy:

Anyone know if its too early to start baking xmas cakes :crowngrin:

far to early but the game season is in full swing so b off down your burrow

 

[happyflyer]

I guess we have no choice

Yes you do have a choice, ignore and fall foul of them at your peril, work to them and if anything goes wrong you have done what the regulation state

 

[happyflyer]

Some have seen this one before…
Sinks can be handy…

View attachment 15603

Can't see any bonding, grab tap, grab boiler,zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[rabbitsaddle]

Can't see any bonding, grab tap, grab boiler,zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Oh dear ,,,,, just googled ' people been killed at kitchen sink by electrocution ' guess what ,
Nowt
So go on , what needs bonding & why ? ,,,,,,,, & I don't mean ' cos it says so '

 

[Dotty]

Can you google for 'Members banned from UKPF by Croppie for being twonks'?

 

[happyflyer]

Oh dear ,,,,, just googled ' people been killed at kitchen sink by electrocution ' guess what ,
Nowt
So go on , what needs bonding & why ? ,,,,,,,, & I don't mean ' cos it says so '

WoooW:15:

 

[rabbitsaddle]

Sorry ? Have we done anything wrong ?

 

[rabbitsaddle]

& all in the interest of getting my post count up :cheesy:
I'm great at parties too :30:

 

[AWheating]

ive googled croppie bans members and it comes up as crappie band members.

 

[Howsie]

& you won't get taken to court as long as you install to current regs , using sound engineering judgement taking into account environment ( which is in regs ) . If there's a potential for danger this clearly has to be addressed but the answer to the original ( generic ) question is , no

You failed when you mentioned the 'E' word!