Boiler flue termination

[jtsplumbing]

Because, I want to make sure before I ask him. I hired him only twice and therefore not sure if he does all the jobs accordingly. As you know many people hold the license but do crappy work and I can not run a business with such a standard. It's all about reputation isn't it? So I am sorry if I asked you but to me it's important to that things are done to regs

Silly question ! but if you are using a gas guy and your not sure that he is doing things the right way, Then why are you still using him ???

 

[Old Account]

Silly question ! but if you are using a gas guy and your not sure that he is doing things the right way, Then why are you still using him ???

I am not qualified and therefore I do not know all the relevant regs so I have to put a certain trust into my mate, don't I? furthermore he doesn't live in my area he lives 25/30 miles from me so it's not just that easy to get hold of him as he is busy too isn't he? But that's not the point here, I just wanted to know if that's to regs or not and if not what should be changed to make it to regs that's all I wanted to know from you guys.

I think,I didn't do anything wrong by asking for a help:/

Thanks anyway, thumbs up for your support!

 

[jtsplumbing]

I am not qualified and therefore I do not know all the relevant regs so I have to put a certain trust into my mate, don't I? furthermore he doesn't live in my area he lives 25/30 miles from me so it's not just that easy to get hold of him as he is busy too isn't he? But that's not the point here, I just wanted to know if that's to regs or not and if not what should be changed to make it to regs that's all I wanted to know from you guys.

I think,I didn't do anything wrong by asking for a help:/

Thanks anyway, thumbs up for your support!

As it is its against the regs ! is it possible that you can put up a photo of side wall as that's looks the best option ? it will have to be changed asap B4 building work gets much further ahead

 

[Old Account]

As it is its against the regs ! is it possible that you can put up a photo of side wall as that's looks the best option ? it will have to be changed asap B4 building work gets much further ahead

Of course I will get a couple more picture so you can then judge better. Thanks for coming back by the way.

One more question,
What do people charge for installing HIU units do you know what's the ballpark figure ?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Depends on a lot of things new or replacement

Any spec ??

 

[Old Account]

Depends on a lot of things new or replacement

Any spec ??

Another customer from central London, wants in a new build block of flat new central heating installation and he's got currently only a commercial boiler downstairs in the basement. The main riser goes up right to the top but they never installed heating in his top floor flat. So now he wants to have heating installed throughout the flat. My mate mentioned to have a separate boiler installed HIU unit to not have water hammer sludge. Loss of temperature , interruption some sort of ... and he mentioned a HIU unit would be solving all this problem. Firstly the architect thought just to connect into the riser and run pipework into the flat.

So now, I do not know what's the best way. I believe that my mate isn't that wrong which is to install a HIU unit. The customer also wants some underfloor heating over there kitchen and living room.

I do not know what's a rough ballpark figure for the HIU units therefore I thought you could give me a hint some sort of brackets

 

[oz-plumber]

Heads up Fella's,

Ron posted the question in Plumbers Arms!!

He asked advice from people allowed in this section.
He doesn't need the third degree questioning that he has got.

The DIY'ers get more help in the open forum regarding questions like this, than you are giving Ron in the Plumbers Arms.
He's in here for a reason and there is no reason that he should feel ( what seems intimidating) to ask questions about something he need advice on.

Someone should come out and answer his question without questioning him why he is answering the question.

He wants advice from people in the Arms, we should give it to him.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Between 2-6k ish and come of the com boilers and use the hiu for everything don't install another boiler

 

[Old Account]

Heads up Fella's,

Ron posted the question in Plumbers Arms!!

He asked advice from people allowed in this section.
He doesn't need the third degree questioning that he has got.

The DIY'ers get more help in the open forum regarding questions like this, than you are giving Ron in the Plumbers Arms.
He's in here for a reason and there is no reason that he should feel ( what seems intimidating) to ask questions about something he need advice on.

Someone should come out and answer his question without questioning him why he is answering the question.

He wants advice from people in the Arms, we should give it to him.

That's all I tried to express but the language barrier sometimes doesn't let me express myself but I appreciate that people like you @oz-plumber exist and read between the lines.

I cannot install the boiler neither give her accurate advise and therefore I asked you gas safe engineers. I am running a business and have to so,ve issues like this too, even though I am not registered. It doesn't look good to say I am sorry but you need to look for someone else's especially not when you got recommended.

However, I am very thankful that people take it serious and helping me out whenever I asked for help. That's the reason why I love this forum that much. Thumbs up to you all

 

[Old Account]

Between 2-6k ish and come of the com boilers and use the hiu for everything don't install another boiler

Thanks shauni !!!!

So, is that a good idea of my mate to install a HIU unit ?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Thanks shauni !!!!

So, is that a good idea of my mate to install a HIU unit ?

Yes what's the other flats got hiu?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

That's all I tried to express but the language barrier sometimes doesn't let me express myself but I appreciate that people like you @oz-plumber exist and read between the lines.

I cannot install the boiler neither give her accurate advise and therefore I asked you gas safe engineers. I am running a business and have to so,ve issues like this too, even though I am not registered. It doesn't look good to say I am sorry but you need to look for someone else's especially not when you got recommended.

However, I am very thankful that people take it serious and helping me out whenever I asked for help. That's the reason why I love this forum that much. Thumbs up to you all

Can't you say to the customer

I'm not gas safe reg but my friend is, here's his number contact him for the works, But I can do the plumbing and soil works?

 

[Old Account]

Yes what's the other flats got hiu?

I haven't been to other flats.
I just got the job yesterday and will meet them tomorrow to see the whole job. I just wanted to make sure that the idea of a HIU unit is good.

The thing is they want me to install:

Central heating
Hot & cold water for 2 bathrooms and kitchen
2 rooms underfloor heating
Waste pipe for the flat
And second fix of 2 baths, 1 double basin, shower tray, 2 back to wall toilets, and all other accessories.
HIU unit

So just to be on the safe side I wanted to know if the HIU unit is a good idea.

Does the ballpark figure 12-16k seem fair ?

 

[Old Account]

Can't you say to the customer

I'm not gas safe reg but my friend is, here's his number contact him for the works, But I can do the plumbing and soil works?

Sure I could!

But what about making more money? Getting more customers ? It's all about reputation. it looks much better when I solve the whole job under my name and get things sorted even though I hire my mate for doing the boiler. I do not like sharing my customers , I like growing as a company. Especially once I am qualified. So why not starting earlier to get more customers, as long as the job is been done to regs no one cares.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

I haven't been to other flats.
I just got the job yesterday and will meet them tomorrow to see the whole job. I just wanted to make sure that the idea of a HIU unit is good.

The thing is they want me to install:

Central heating
Hot & cold water for 2 bathrooms and kitchen
2 rooms underfloor heating
Waste pipe for the flat
And second fix of 2 baths, 1 double basin, shower tray, 2 back to wall toilets, and all other accessories.
HIU unit

So just to be on the safe side I wanted to know if the HIU unit is a good idea.

Does the ballpark figure 12-16k seem fair ?

Yea about right they supplying bathrooms etc ?

 

[Old Account]

Yea about right they supplying bathrooms etc ?

They supply all materials.
I just mentioned to get crimping fittings to make the work much faster and less risk of leaks. All materials are top quality. So I just will do the job with my mate.

Thanks for your help Shauni, I really appreciate it.

 

[oz-plumber]

Hi Ron - and Plumbers Arms?

Ron's a trusted member, and also posted his question in the Plumbers Arms.

He wanted advice from experienced people who are included in a non public area of the forum.

Why not give him advice and help him out?
If I knew your regs, I would have no problem answering his questions?

I understand that you cannot give advice to DIY'ers about gas related issues, but they do not have access to Plumbers Arms.

You all give advice to DIY'ers about 'How to do Plumbing' but won't answer a couple of questions by a trusted member the the Plumbers Arms.

All Ron wanted to know is what to do with a flue termination due to a house extension.

He doesn't need the 3rd degree questioning of his credential, qualifications, experience and who his gas engineer is...particularly in this section of the forum and more so, due to his credentials for his contributions to this forum in general.

FFS Fella's.. all Ron asked for was advice on the Flue termination.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

They supply all materials.
I just mentioned to get crimping fittings to make the work much faster and less risk of leaks. All materials are top quality. So I just will do the job with my mate.

Thanks for your help Shauni, I really appreciate it.

Remember to post pics if you get it once your finished

 

[Old Account]

Remember to post pics if you get it once your finished

Definitely will do. During the process. I literally cannot wait to start this sort of big job will a great experience with good finish.

I might be back to ask a couple of questions

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Hi Ron - and Plumbers Arms?

Ron's a trusted member, and also posted his question in the Plumbers Arms.

He wanted advice from experienced people who are included in a non public area of the forum.

Why not give him advice and help him out?
If I knew your regs, I would have no problem answering his questions?

I understand that you cannot give advice to DIY'ers about gas related issues, but they do not have access to Plumbers Arms.

You all give advice to DIY'ers about 'How to do Plumbing' but won't answer a couple of questions by a trusted member the the Plumbers Arms.

All Ron wanted to know is what to do with a flue termination due to a house extension.

He doesn't need the 3rd degree questioning of his credential, qualifications, experience and who his gas engineer is...particularly in this section of the forum and more so, due to his credentials for his contributions to this forum in general.

FFS Fella's.. all Ron asked for was advice on the Flue termination.

I can see where your coming from but diy plumbing is a lot different to gas work

I speak for myself in regards if he was qulified (gas safe) I would be happy to give advice and answer any questions, but as he isn't so can't advise,

If he doesn't trust he gas safe engy, once he's been out to look at the job and quoted for the works

What stops Ron asking us does this sound right and does the relevant works comply with gas regs

Needs an engys eyes on it first

 

[Old Account]

Remember to post pics if you get it once your finished

What type of underfloor heating would you recommend ? Finish floor will be floorboards as they are going to raise the floor level to make it even everywhere. What manifold would you use? I've seen recently a new product like a click and twist system

 

[ShaunCorbs]

What type of underfloor heating would you recommend ? Finish floor will be floorboards as they are going to raise the floor level to make it even everywhere. What manifold would you use? I've seen recently a new product like a click and twist system

Have a word with u heat @Uheat – Wojtek

 

[oz-plumber]

[QUOTE="ShaunCorbs,

What stops Ron asking us does this sound right and does the relevant works comply with gas regs
[/QUOTE]

Splitting hairs Shaun.

That's what I thought he was asking.....and not reading between the lines.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Splitting hairs Shaun.

That's what I thought he was asking...and not reading between the lines.

Not quite as his gas safe engy might see somthing we can't, that makes our advice nil and void

 

[Old Account]

I think we all should relax it's no point of us arguing about a silly question. I understand the point of @ShaunCorbs but I also agree to @oz-plumber ... I cannot ask and bother him all the time as he works for himself too. It's very obvious I am not working on gas appliances and therefore seeking help. I was at the property and she wants me to take care of the conservatory. I just seen that the flue hasn't been moved and therefore wanted to make sure before starting the job that's complies with regs or not. If not then I'd get my mate to relocate the termination of the flue or relocate the boiler if necessary.

So please relax both ...