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Ray Stafford
Bulldog trv & locksheild £6. Not much more budget than that tbh!
Thats a good deal.
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Bulldog trv & locksheild £6. Not much more budget than that tbh!
The likes of say Pts own brand, who makes them ?
I think the boss range is pegler in disguise ?
To be honest you might as well not bother putting most own brand in. If your landlord is that tight that he wants to save £4 and risk his heating system then he deserves to have BG come and give him a quote for £900 for a powerflush in two years time (give him my number). Not getting personal Army, it just seemed that in my day we cared about the quality of work and products we put in whereas in all walks of life now there is always someone who will do the job cheaper with little or no thought about long term consequences.That's interesting and good to know but I doubt my landlord will be interested.
Cheap filter screwfix Nonsense looks just like the magna ! dunno if its as good ?.
To be honest you might as well not bother putting most own brand in. .
To be honest you might as well not bother putting most own brand in.
I would just like to say it makes no difference to me. I will happily put in the most expensive chemical when the funds are there. This guy has left the house with no heating for over a month now, he sent round 4 different engineers as he was hoping someone would say "yeah i'll fix that for £50" Each one said "needs a new boiler" as not worth spending money on parts. Also the fact that the casing is rusting pretty badly. He barely speaks English which doesnt help.
I will flush system and add inhibitor and whatever else is required according to MI's.
The landlord never has his boilers serviced. Ever, the boiler i'm replacing is 4 years old!.
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What boilers coming out and what are you fitting?
Surely th fact its coming out after such a short time means that he's getting something better?
Personally wouldn't entertain doing the job, don't like dealing with people like this. Just done on cost is never a good thing.
a piece of poo for a piece of poo. it's land lords. we don't need to bash ash, he knows the score of what you should do normally, however as its getting chilly I don't blame him putting the boiler in himself !!! a month without heating!
Could you expand on that from a technical point of view?
I am no chemist, but I did spend quite a lot of time trying to understand what the active ingredients in inhibitors and cleaners were, and what was in the cheaper alternatives, and where (if anywhere) the corners were being cut on the cheaper brands.
As far as I can tell, Aqueous Logic aren't cutting any corners in their chemistry, but they spend very little on sales and marketing. Its interesting to note that some of their technology is now licenced by one of the brand leaders
If you have some technical knowledge that would shed any light on this, I would love to hear it.
Molybdenum and Sodium Benzoate aren't cheap and as such there are cheaper alternatives such as Nitrate, Nitrite and Phosphates, none of which are great from a health and safety perspective. Feel free to do your own Googling if you're interested. Nitrite in particular was responsible for so called blue baby syndrome back in the 80's when it was used in commercial water treatment.
not only did it have Sodium Nitrite in it but Formaldehyde which is a Carcinogen
Formaldehyde is so toxic that its not allowed to be used to store tissue biopsy's in Hospitals in case of spillage.
I appreciate your status as a self made man and we need to make margin but I just don't agree with including harmful chemicals in a product just to reduce cost.
Not a sleight at you Ray, that is aimed at the manufacturers involved. Enjoyed the debate for what its worth. Can we move on to Geopolitical infrastructure for 10 points please?