Boiler plus what you doing ?

[dan_the_plumber]

Have you got gas in Wales ? thought everything was Coal powered.

Yes we get a lot of our gas from Scotland, same as you. Enjoying our water are you?

 

[dan_the_plumber]

Who’s the admin on this page please?

 

[Harvest Fields]

@ShaunCorbs. Presume you didn’t appreciate my joke about coal and Wales. No offence intended mate.

 

[dan_the_plumber]

@ShaunCorbs. Presume you didn’t appreciate my joke about coal and Wales. No offence intended mate.

I’m msking a very fair point here mate, About doing our jobs properly and professionally. I don’t really see that I should be made fun of for that.
Either this forum is a place where professionals can exchange ideas or it is allowed to become a boys club for halfwitts.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Who’s the admin on this page please?

What you need ?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

That’s the only good thing to come out of Wales and we all know what we do with it

What about the rugby and s4c

 

[Harvest Fields]

It was a joke mate. I apologise I offended you. I have family from wales and they all have a sense of humour.

 

[Harvest Fields]

What about the rugby and s4c

I was just joking around mate. No offence was intended. If he had said I offended him which he has I would have apologised which I have.

 

[dan_the_plumber]

It was a joke mate. I apologise I offended you. I have family from wales and they all have a sense of humour.

That’s funny because I have family from England and they are all a joke

 

[Harvest Fields]

That’s funny because I have family from England and they are all a joke

I agree mate. At least we can now agree on something.

Edit due to the above sounding worse than it was supposed to. Was not meant to sound irritating. I was agreeing that that some people from England are also a joke.

 

[dan_the_plumber]

Shaun, after the 5 years or so I’ve been on your forum. I have finally had enough. There are a few people on here (who seem to comment on just about every post) who I would really rather not converse with. Please put me out of my misery and close my account. Thanks

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Shaun, after the 5 years or so I’ve been on your forum. I have finally had enough. There are a few people on here (who seem to comment on just about every post) who I would really rather not converse with. Please put me out of my misery and close my account. Thanks

Wouldn't it be easier to ignore those who you don't find to have appropriate replys ?

You can pm any issues if you want

 

[Harvest Fields]

Shaun, after the 5 years or so I’ve been on your forum. I have finally had enough. There are a few people on here (who seem to comment on just about every post) who I would really rather not converse with. Please put me out of my misery and close my account. Thanks

I have never had a conversation with you until today. Sorry I have clearly upset you. As I have said before it was simply a bit of light hearted banter. You are entitled to your opinion. Once again I apologise

 

[JLS]

So......boiler plus regulations. Why does a condensing boiler not meet the Flue gas recovery requirement sufficiently? I've been looking online for the actual regs but have so far only found links to third party sites that just repeat the same guidelines

 

[dan_the_plumber]

I have never had a conversation with you until today. Sorry I have clearly upset you. As I have said before it was simply a bit of light hearted banter. You are entitled to your opinion. Once again I apologise

Ok well I appreciate that. It’s not like I can’t take a joke. It just keeps happening. The level of respect I would expect is just not there.
For example I posted a few months back about measuring POC on inset decorative gas fires. ‘Masons’ spoke to me in a way that I thought was offensive. Then Shaun backed him all the way. Unbelievable, I was insensed.
Anyway I would like to stay but if this sort of thing is what I can expect then I’ll just have to delight another group with my witty professional banter

 

[dan_the_plumber]

So....boiler plus regulations. Why does a condensing boiler not meet the Flue gas recovery requirement sufficiently? I've been looking online for the actual regs but have so far only found links to third party sites that just repeat the same guidelines

Check out the latest updates to building regs Part L, also the central heating compliance guide

 

[Harvest Fields]

Ok well I appreciate that. It’s not like I can’t take a joke. It just keeps happening. The level of respect I would expect is just not there.
For example I posted a few months back about measuring POC on inset decorative gas fires. ‘Masons’ spoke to me in a way that I thought was offensive. Then Shaun backed him all the way. Unbelievable, I was insensed.
Anyway I would like to stay but if this sort of thing is what I can expect then I’ll just have to delight another group with my witty professional banter

I will keep it in mind not be so forward.

 

[dan_the_plumber]

Wouldn't it be easier to ignore those who you don't find to have appropriate replys ?

You can pm any issues if you want

Well Harvest Fields has been very nice about things and I do very much appreciate that.
However Shaun, as you should know already. I have a problem with you thinking that you don’t have to adhere to building regs. I mean it doesn’t look very good for the forum, when the main admin dismisses the rules in a flippant manor.
Look mate I’m not the regs police, far from it. I’d just ask you to consider it next time you make a false declaration on your benchmark form.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Well Harvest Fields has been very nice about things and I do very much appreciate that.
However Shaun, as you should know already. I have a problem with you thinking that you don’t have to adhere to building regs. I mean it doesn’t look very good for the forum, when the main admin dismisses the rules in a flippant manor.
Look mate I’m not the regs police, far from it. I’d just ask you to consider it next time you make a false declaration on your benchmark form.

Not regs in Wales or Scotland yet only England

 

[dan_the_plumber]

Not regs in Wales or Scotland yet only England

Yes I do know that Shaun. Where are you then?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Yes I do know that Shaun. Where are you then?

North wales

 

[dan_the_plumber]

North wales

I see

 

[Alastair Davis]

So....boiler plus regulations. Why does a condensing boiler not meet the Flue gas recovery requirement sufficiently? I've been looking online for the actual regs but have so far only found links to third party sites that just repeat the same guidelines

I found this:

https://assets.publishing.service.g.../attachment_data/file/697525/DBSCG_secure.pdf


I'm a little confused on this one too. Can anyone please educate me.

As of 2005 all new installations are required to be condensing boilers. In essence I believe these work by using the flue gas to heat the return flow prior to it reaching the heat exchanger, and so that the boiler can then modulate to a lower temperature, using less gas.

• Is this not classed as 'Flue gas heat recovery'? (see 2.2)
• If it isn't then whats the difference? (can't find an answer online!)
• And if it is the same, is this point then not pointless?

Thanks in advance
Ali

 

[Martyn2]

I found this:

https://assets.publishing.service.g.../attachment_data/file/697525/DBSCG_secure.pdf


I'm a little confused on this one too. Can anyone please educate me.

As of 2005 all new installations are required to be condensing boilers. In essence I believe these work by using the flue gas to heat the return flow prior to it reaching the heat exchanger, and so that the boiler can then modulate to a lower temperature, using less gas.

• Is this not classed as 'Flue gas heat recovery'? (see 2.2)
• If it isn't then whats the difference? (can't find an answer online!)
• And if it is the same, is this point then not pointless?

Thanks in advance
Ali

Actually looked a bit further into this and what it actually means is that flue gas heat recovery must operate in HW mode. Google boiler-plus-final-policy-and-consultation

 

[Alastair Davis]

Actually looked a bit further into this and what it actually means is that flue gas heat recovery must operate in HW mode. Google boiler-plus-final-policy-and-consultation

Hey Martyn, cheers for that. It firms it up better.

https://assets.publishing.service.g...us_final_policy_and_consultation_response.pdf

(page 32)

Just out of interest, do many boiler manufacturers supply this functionality as standard and/or as an add on within condensing combi's? (i'm new to the industry and am currently studying!)

Cheers