building control after water usage figures

[unguided1]

Hi guys

looks like I have been caught out on a new reg that apparantley came in last year, I have been asked to submit water usage calculations to building control on a new build, anyone else done this or know where I start,

Apparantly building control will not sign off the building until they have been submitted

regards

Mike

 

[unguided1]

Right well today I went straight to the horses mouth and ended up calling www.communities.gov.uk/publications/planningandbuilding/partg2009divisionalletter
Had a struggle at the beginning and after my dealings with government departments in the past I was not expecting to get any where fast, but I congratulate the people involved as they pulled the stops out and got an extremley knowledgable man to assist me.
So Part G is definately in If you are a plumber working on any new build in england (I dunno about Wales, Scotland or Northern Ireland ) then you have got to account for your customers water usage figures before building control will sign off on the build so I suggest that before your customer goes out buying all the gismos and gadgets they really want they throw in they should look at installing the absolute minimum then get the building signed off, then after the building is signed off put what they want in.
The important thing to remeber is to keep the water usage down WCs need to be 6L or less, bath deck mixers are out, the Lowest volume baths you can lay yer hands on are good, Showers are rated as excellent but the shower control needs to be as low a flow rate as you can find, if you can convince yer customer to put in grey water recycling or rainwater harvesting then this will actually be a great help.

This is going to be a minefield of confusion especially for the one man bands out there like my self and even worse is going to be trying to convince the customers of what is happenning
We

 

[SimonG]

Shouldn't the architect/consultant be reponsible after all its them that put in that 5th toilet or 5th bedroom ensuite. Or even building control before they pass for building regs approval.

I need a bigger barrow to carry everybody elses crap around!

 

[unguided1]

Shouldn't the architect/consultant be reponsible after all its them that put in that 5th toilet or 5th bedroom ensuite. Or even building control before they pass for building regs approval.

I need a bigger barrow to carry everybody elses crap around!

Well in this case it has been dropped in my lap, After speaking to the chap in the government department this afternoon he has left me his direct line and I plan to chat to him again as I still do not fully understand it all, but it would seem that yes it is down to us plumbers, one thing he said was that if I was a member of CiPHE I would have known about it because apparantly they have notified their members

 

[quality]

How many memberships and registrations do we need to earn a living!!!!!

 

[stani]

the problem will really start when we are just doing a bathroom update and BRegs will start wanting these figures then, or doing an outside tap and demanding we send in the figures or there will be a financial penalty clause we have to pay.

 

[SimonG]

I would say yes, if I had been paid to design the plumbing and heating system and specified the sanitary ware.

When I'm pricing a new build it's normally a set of plans and allow for bath, basin, shower etc that the customers will pick out at a later date or has already been specified.

 

[unguided1]

I know that I do go on a bit about all these regs but I also see that another thread has just come up about the welsh having to install sprinkler systems in new builds, whens it gonna end, answer never its only just started. mark my words

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

I know that I do go on a bit about all these regs but I also see that another thread has just come up about the welsh having to install sprinkler systems in new builds, whens it gonna end, answer never its only just started. mark my words

thats a new one on me dont do many new builds though about one a year

 

[SimonG]

I know that I do go on a bit about all these regs but I also see that another thread has just come up about the welsh having to install sprinkler systems in new builds, whens it gonna end, answer never its only just started. mark my words

Just read that thread and done a bit of reading on domestic sprinkler systems..........................and yes.......................you shouldn't install or amend unless you have had the "appropriate" training!

Wonder if you need a quality management system to install sprinklers as well! 🙂

 

[unguided1]

I think its time for a revolution, time for me to break out me burning pitchfork

 

[dontknowitall]

Thanks for these recent posts Unguided1. Not happy reading but better forewarned than forearmed or whatever the expressions is.

 

[unguided1]

Thanks for these recent posts Unguided1. Not happy reading but better forewarned than forearmed or whatever the expressions is.

I know I tend to enjoy the lighter side of life a bit much which to some people can be a bit annoying but I feel our industry has been under attack for years, but no one has noticed. I reckon its time something was said

 

[ecowarm]

I think its time for a revolution, time for me to break out me burning pitchfork

The people are with us

 

[REDSAW]

my answer would be..yes its 200ltr a day, they say... your figures are wrong ours show 125.
well there you go then!!!!! mine account for 5 people having diahorea.