Calculating shower waste pipe fall

[GerryB]

Simple questions, I hope:

When planning the run of the waste pipe from a new shower, do I calculate the fall from the shower tray surface or from the shower trap outlet?

I'm working on a required fall with 40mm pipe of 18mm per 1m and I have a 2m straight span to cross. Is this correct?

 

[Rob Foster]

Yeah I understand what you're saying but as I've said a few times to plumbers I've spoken to you can learn at college and you can read books but nothing beats learning from someone with years of experience, the knowledge you gain from real people is worth its weight in gold.



Thanks, I can only keep going and trying after all it wont come knocking at my door if I don't.



I'm West Oxfordshire. Carterton area.



I've not sent random letters to be honest. I've picked up the phone and spoken to people and if they are interested I send CV / cover letter. As I say my list is around 38 companies now, when I get to around 50 I might start banging my head against the wall.

I've spoken to some really decent blokes who have been more than willing to offer advice on how to get an apprenticeship but sadly nothing has worked as yet. Visited plumbing merchants, Visited the training centre, Phoned people, Put a poster up in the local training centre. A few more phone calls to make tomorrow to a few more companies. Just need that foot in the door as they say..

The biggest asset you can offer will be your own transport and a driving licence that will put well ahead of the others. Then you will be so much more usefull. Rob Foster aka centralheatking

 

[Andy-36]

The biggest asset you can offer will be your own transport and a driving licence that will put well ahead of the others. Then you will be so much more usefull. Rob Foster aka centralheatking

Indeed, I've spoken to a couple of plumbers over the last couple of days who sadly weren't taking anyone on however very useless chats. It does seem that a lot of lads/lady's are put off taking on apprentices due to previous bad experiences which is a shame really.

 

[Rob Foster]

Indeed, I've spoken to a couple of plumbers over the last couple of days who sadly weren't taking anyone on however very useless chats. It does seem that a lot of lads/lady's are put off taking on apprentices due to previous bad experiences which is a shame really.

Centrica are taking on , it gets bad press but its a start in my opinion. centralheatking

 

[Robert Bell]

Yeah I understand what you're saying but as I've said a few times to plumbers I've spoken to you can learn at college and you can read books but nothing beats learning from someone with years of experience, the knowledge you gain from real people is worth its weight in gold.



Thanks, I can only keep going and trying after all it wont come knocking at my door if I don't.



I'm West Oxfordshire. Carterton area.



I've not sent random letters to be honest. I've picked up the phone and spoken to people and if they are interested I send CV / cover letter. As I say my list is around 38 companies now, when I get to around 50 I might start banging my head against the wall.

I've spoken to some really decent blokes who have been more than willing to offer advice on how to get an apprenticeship but sadly nothing has worked as yet. Visited plumbing merchants, Visited the training centre, Phoned people, Put a poster up in the local training centre. A few more phone calls to make tomorrow to a few more companies. Just need that foot in the door as they say..

Look I was really lucky in the early 80,s combis came in and the old fellas could not convert from vented etc. so I swapped my new knowledge for their old
and valued experience. So I can join lead, make snow boxes etc because these fellas shared their knowhow with me then in the late 90,s I picked up a cohort of ex Cammel Laird fitters ..the ones who built submarines etc who also knew loads more than me and were chucked onto the scrap heap aged 50 ..but needed organising into a new business..and we did well..
so I have never been an apprentice. Then Mike and I started Api 2006..to my mind there is little to stop an inteligent young person
setting up as a plumber and any problems ask us on UKPF
Rob Foster aka centralheatking

I had the problem of some lack ing in information as while off work ill I decided to tKe a Plumbing course back in 05. We weren’t told that to continue through the trade we would need to gain work with a plumber to get the NVQ so we could advance to gas. I couldn’t find a plumber willing to take on a 40 year old apprentice at that time. So I ended up going self employed as a general plumber and occasionally I get to work with a well seasoned gas engineer and learn much of the old school tricks and tips from him. Still wish I could get my gas. Was thinking of doing my G3 as starting to see them more around here these days.

 

[Welder]

I had the problem of some lack ing in information as while off work ill I decided to tKe a Plumbing course back in 05. We weren’t told that to continue through the trade we would need to gain work with a plumber to get the NVQ so we could advance to gas. I couldn’t find a plumber willing to take on a 40 year old apprentice at that time. So I ended up going self employed as a general plumber and occasionally I get to work with a well seasoned gas engineer and learn much of the old school tricks and tips from him. Still wish I could get my gas. Was thinking of doing my G3 as starting to see them more around here these days.

Do it. It will pay for itself in a single install. Make sure you get back on here (in the Arms) and learn about the realitys once ticketed though