Can Hep2o & Speedfit Mix?

[LeakyNick]

Hi

Can you mix Hep2o and Speedfit fittings/pipes? e.g. Hep2o 15mm to speedfit 15mm elbow?

Thanks

Leaky

 

[Avatar]

Use a piece of cooper 15mm to join them.

The inserts, and internal dimensnsions are not the same!

 

[LeakyNick]

Thanks...but using the correct inserts for each type, can I then interchange? Presumably the external dimensions are standard.

Leaky

 

[turnpin]

the only way you can safely mix them is to use only copper pipe to join them as if a leak were to occur either company will tell you you have not installed them as per manufacturers instructions i.e you have not used their fitting/inserts/pipe but hep20 and john guest speed fit both allow copper tube if you do try it any way certainly would not look very professional regards turnpin

 

[LeakyNick]

Thanks.

Leaky

 

[Toddyplumb]

Just use a compression coupling with the correct insert in either pipe.

 

[oldplumber]

stick with one make, then you dont have to try, it looks shoddy mixing bits and your warranty is invalidated as mentioned

 

[tamz]

They ALL have the same OD but slightly different ID's so the fittings are all suitable for each other but you must use the correct inserts for each type of pipe. You won't find it written in any manu's instructions as they don't want you thinking it is ok to use the competitions stuff.
Btw i only ever use it as a last resort (yes i know, move with the times and all the rest of the rubbish). I just think it looks shyte and is unproffesional.

 

[Magicplumb]

They ALL have the same OD but slightly different ID's so the fittings are all suitable for each other but you must use the correct inserts for each type of pipe. You won't find it written in any manu's instructions as they don't want you thinking it is ok to use the competitions stuff.
Btw i only ever use it as a last resort (yes i know, move with the times and all the rest of the rubbish). I just think it looks shyte and is unproffesional.

I agree, as we always try to give customer something they could never ever do them selfs.

Poly, Hep and SF all have there place in this modern time and have some very good applications. Cant understand why you would even want to start mixing and matching!

LeakyNick are you a Professional PLUMBER or are you someone who couldnt even put a pipe in a snowmans mouth

 

[WaterTight]

Perhaps a Hep pipe is already there..protuding out of a floor and he wants to join onto it using speedfit or visa versa. Perhaps it's too tight to get tools in. Maybe he uses copper so much it's never come up for him before. Either way it's obviously not such a stupid question that there wasn't some disagreement.

 

[tamz]

we always try to give customer something they could never ever do them selfs.

My sentiments exactly.
Always tried to teach the young lads that plumbing is not difficult now and most people could do it themselves BUT they pay us because they want/expect a quality proffesional job which they can't do themselves.
Unfortunately there are many "plumbers" AND customers who wouldn't know a quality job if it bit them on the bum.

Ask around the plumbers who love fitting speedfit and the like what they have in their own house. It may surprise you but most say copper.

 

[easyt]

I've had to accept Kilos instead of pounds. Don't have to accept plastic pipes indoors !!

 

[tamz]

I've had to accept Kilos instead of pounds. Don't have to accept plastic pipes indoors !!

Another wise old head

 

[Avatar]

Whats wrong with plastic pipe anyway???

Its great in many situations where copper isn't . . .

You old boy plumbers are a bit like copper pipework - inflexible, hard to work with, and easily ruffled . . .

Different materials for different jobs.

Whats wrong with that?

 

[sparky]

I was always told that if you used a poly fitting you must use a poly insert, as with john guest. The pipe is the same. Have done this on site temps and had no leaks.

 

[tamz]

You old boy plumbers are a bit like copper pipework - inflexible, hard to work with?????, and easily ruffled . . .

But we are (straight from the copper board website this )

Tried and Tested been at it for years and years
Versatile you can rely on us and we won't let you down (well i won't)
Long-lasting i'm still at it, a bit worse for wear but holding up
Healthy and safe don't know about the healthy but see above and got more risk assesments and COSHH stuff than you could shake a stick at
Good value for money I've not got the time to mess about, in and out job done
Recyclable ashes to ashes and earth to earth and all that stuff. The worms can have me when i'm done.
Resists heat, corrosion, pressure and fire hard skin, waterproof (tried and tested) i like pressure and cope with it easily and i've never set a house on fire
Non-permeable if i don't want to listen i won't
Professional skills well that one speaks for itself
Industry support have a network of 100's of guys i have known and worked with over the years and i'm in snipef so can get any smart answers i don't know from people who do.

 

[LeakyNick]

OK...for those who are interested, I have some Hep2o coming out of a floorboard under a bath at the caziest of angle (about 15 degrees) which then (hidden behind a bath) curves up the nearby wall to a mixer-valve/tap for the bath. I need to re-route this pipe as it exits the floorboards (via elbows-hot and cold) and flexing plastic pipe to some sensible angle so that I can route 'proper' pipes to new taps on a new bath. (can't easily get floorboards up). As I'm quite new to this, I was thinking of using speedfit as I understand that you can only buy hep2o on very long (50m?) lengths and I need about 1m at most. So, it was really an economic question as to why I'd need to mix two types of plastic pipe.

 

[Robtheplumb]

You can get Hep2o in 3m lengths, ask your merchant.

 

[turnpin]

my merchant will cut it off the roll by how long you want 1- 2- 3 meters
same with copperregards turnpin

 

[LeakyNick]

Interesting...not what I was lead to believe. But I'll ask

Leaky

 

[tackleburger]

OK...for those who are interested, I have some Hep2o coming out of a floorboard under a bath at the caziest of angle (about 15 degrees) which then (hidden behind a bath) curves up the nearby wall to a mixer-valve/tap for the bath. I need to re-route this pipe as it exits the floorboards (via elbows-hot and cold) and flexing plastic pipe to some sensible angle so that I can route 'proper' pipes to new taps on a new bath. (can't easily get floorboards up). As I'm quite new to this, I was thinking of using speedfit as I understand that you can only buy hep2o on very long (50m?) lengths and I need about 1m at most. So, it was really an economic question as to why I'd need to mix two types of plastic pipe.

Oh dear oh dear!

 

[WaterTight]

Got a leak in my house, started last night. Went in loft to find source. It was on a speedfit coupler on hep pipe. Been there a good 10 years or so. I didn't put it in. Isolated it since haven't had time to sort it yet. Will be going to sort it in a bit. I'm wondering whether...

a) wrong insert on hep pipe
b) speedfit coupler just gone dodgy
c) a speedfit coupler shouldn't have been put on a hep pipe, correct insert or not...

Taking all bets...what will be in the answer...roll up roll up

 

[spanner]

They do fit and as I'm told to use the pipe insert to the pipe being used sos in your case assure the Hep2o has the nominal steel steel pipe support inserted before pushing all the way home..!! Good luck.

..Spanner

 

[tamz]

Since it is your own house rip all the plastic shy.. out and do it right

 

[spanner]

Never knew that the Hep2o was that old,, need Anniversary..I probably missed it, but I was advised when using b pipe to use the approved pipe insert...Good luck

..spanner.