Can't decide which drill set to purchase

[Harvest Fields]

Send it back

 

[WC1]

Agreed, it's just a sad day.

 

[Burger]

It’s sad as QC seems to be slipping more and more these days - flipping heck I sound old

 

[Harvest Fields]

It’s sad as QC seems to be slipping more and more these days - flipping heck I sound old

Sound?

 

[Best]

Probably not made in Germany, but China or elsewhere in Asia at lower standard

 

[WC1]

Of course on closer inspection it is made in China rather than Germany. Unfortunately it has been made badly, almost certainly not because Chinese manufacturers want to make things badly but because their (mostly western) customers tell them to make it cheaply.
I was also wondering if it might be a knockoff as it's so bad...

 

[Harvest Fields]

Hence... send it back

 

[Millsy 82]

It's probably too late as you've more than likely bought already but here is my thinking.

The thing with power tools is look at the specs. I hated my makita impact and drill set as the impact diver was gutless and the drill was even worse when my drill eventually died I was looking at dewalt as I'd used one of the other lads and it beat the socks of mine.

As all my kit is makita I decided I will go with them again went on ITS and went through the specs what you'll notice is there is a big jump once the price goes above something like £300 the specs get a lot better I can't remember what I paid but think it was around £450 and the drill is just as good as my sds and the impact driver I feel performs better than the dewalt and hilti I've tried.

When it comes to batteries I have 1 5ah and feel that I don't really need it the 4ah last almost as long and I don't notice the difference so your better off going for a better set with 4ah batteries than a slightly cheaper set with 5ah batteries.

 

[Welder]

Remember batteries are where tool manus have moved their profit. All batts now have a chip inside to limit the number of charges. Ostensibly this is because batt chemistry is inherantly dangerous. The fact is though manus have used it to force you to shell our far more than you need.

Aldi or lidl did a 2ah batt recently for £13. It has a THREE year warranty. A 'make' would be 5 times that - PURE profit...

 

[gmartine]

I could never be arsed plus I have a cheap tool aversion but I knew a few tradesman who'd quite happily buy Lidl/Aldi gear and were happy to take'em back when they died within the warranty period and so the cycle of renewel continued. Considering the high risk of theft nowadays it isn't a bad idea but it does I feel perhaps mistakenly reflect on your professionalism? Has anybody actually run one of their (Aldi/Lidl) tools under heavy duty trade use for over three years, I'd like to know to know whether my scepticism or distrust is warranted?

 

[Welder]

I could never be arsed plus I have a cheap tool aversion but I knew a few tradesman who'd quite happily buy Lidl/Aldi gear and were happy to take'em back when they died within the warranty period and so the cycle of renewel continued. Considering the high risk of theft nowadays it isn't a bad idea but it does I feel perhaps mistakenly reflect on your professionalism? Has anybody actually run one of their (Aldi/Lidl) tools under heavy duty trade use for over three years, I'd like to know to know whether my scepticism or distrust is warranted?

I used to buy Bosch multitools - guaranteed 3 years at over £200 a time. Had a few fail & never once did they honour the warranty. Decided s0d it and bought lidl/aldi. Two machines & 5 yrs later not one failure but £35 each.

Tool snobbery is only in the eyes of trades Customers dont give a flying fig.

 

[townfanjon]

Personally I am a Makita man, my battery’s are the old 3AH and are great.
However nothing wrong with Milwaukee

Chuffin hell “ kiss of death”, both batteries have packed in since I posted this , lol , not

 

[Lee Davies]

Just to let people know.

I have now owned the Makita set I listed in my OP sicne that week.
Outstanding set and would highly recommend.
Still on my first charge of the batteries !!!!

 

[Mrb]

Ah that’s a shame, was going to recommend this.

Festool 574705 PDC 18/4 Li 5,2-Plus 18v 2x5.2ah Percussion Drill Systainer 2 DF

Expensive, but you get what you pay for, mine is 8 years old and gets heavy daily use with no problems, as yet...

 

[Millsy 82]

Just to let people know.

I have now owned the Makita set I listed in my OP sicne that week.
Outstanding set and would highly recommend.
Still on my first charge of the batteries !!!!

Mate you need to work harder if you haven't charged them. Lol

 

[OffshoreGas]

Personally I’m not a big fan of impact drivers. I own a few but they don’t come out of the top box very often. If you plan to be sinking 4-6” screws they’re a god send but I’d look at buying a drill drive and cordless SDS. Various makes sell a naked 18vSDS for £130ish.

Makita certainly make tools with the best bang for your buck but from experience I’ve found Metabo Male the longest living drills and they’re not much more.

 

[Burger]

I like impact drivers for stubborn screws.

 

[OffshoreGas]

I like impact drivers for stubborn screws.

The Metabo drill drivers have a pulse function that basically does the same.

I use my 10.8v drill/driver/impact a lot of the time in fairness.

It’s just hard to tell how tight something is with an impact driver.

 

[Millsy 82]

The Metabo drill drivers have a pulse function that basically does the same.

I use my 10.8v drill/driver/impact a lot of the time in fairness.

It’s just hard to tell how tight something is with an impact driver.

If it doesn't move it's tight if the screw snaps it's too tight. Lol.