Condensate pipe terminates into neighbours gutter, is this ok?

[ShaunCorbs]

We bond the five pipes under the boiler, it came about years ago during a Corgi inspection and the Inspector asked us why the boiler hadn't been bonded across the pipework when it was in a kitchen almost the same as the one in the pic, we explained that it wasn't something we did and he said from now on in areas of high humidity I want to see the boiler pipework bonded. Done it ever since, right or wrong we still do it.

did you ask him why ????? elec regs dont require it or gas regs

 

[goz666]

Nah Mate just did it, must admit though in this area most boilers we go to have been bonded across flow, dhw, gas, cold and return. A mate of mine was ranting the other week that all this bonding should be done by leccys. He still bonds the pipework as most lads seem to round here.

 

[Harvest Fields]

Very very true. I am not bothered about bonding at appliance as long as it is there elsewhere. But on all my installs I check they have it and if not I get them to get a sparky to do it for them. Ie at the meter or cold water pipework

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Very very true. I am not bothered about bonding at appliance as long as it is there elsewhere. But on all my installs I check they have it and if not I get them to get a sparky to do it for them. Ie at the meter or cold water pipework

and these days you have rcd which require them to be bonded if its an old 3036 its ncs anyway

 

[king of pipes]

All the guys have coverd everything but i must say it is a very poor install for the money you paid you should have got a better quality boiler and tidyer job than that hope it gets sorted regards kop

 

[cr0ft]

Just to clear up the bonding issue (as an electrician), if the power supply to the boiler is RCD protected then no cross bonding is required. All of the pipes coming into the boiler are attached to the boiler case which is earthed back through the earth busbar on the consumer unit. No point in adding work for the sake of it!

 

[Fiona]

Thanks so much for all your feedback!

We had him in this morning and everything that was raised has been seen to. But just to clarify for those wondering, yes the benchmark was completed in full in which it was stated the system had been flushed. We have also since received the GSR certificate for the job but I have also requested an inspection so hopefully we have someone in soonish to ok it all.

Strangely though I ended up contacting an expert via ciphe.org.uk and received the following -
"it is ok to discharge the condense into that rainwater guttering provided the owner of that guttering agrees". Obviously they weren't happy with it hence the looking into this in the first place but its interesting to see it being ok after all that has been said.

Anyway, hopefully its all resolved now and we have happy neighbours again.

Thanks for your help!
Fiona

 

[Scott_D]

It can only go to rain water if neutralised or it's a combined rain water and sewage drain.

Was the filling loop connected to the hot water?

 

[leesparkykent]

The only place boiler pipework needs bonding is if its installed in a bathroom that's been wired to pre 17th edition (so no RCD on bathroom circuits) as all extraneous conductive parts and exposed conductive parts in that location require cross bonding so in the event of a fault the extraneous and exposed conductive parts are at the same potential.

 

[magicno1]

Double check valve installed wrong! Should be on the cold inlet guys!
Sorry to say but Rouge Traders may like this one!

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Double check valve installed wrong! Should be on the cold inlet guys!
Sorry to say but Rouge Traders may like this one!

Doesn't have to be on the cold side, some say cold some heating

I like cold myself as you can drain the heating down easily via the valve

 

[Darren Jackson]

The Mi's state the filling loop should from the cold with a check valve to the return pipe with a check valve. This one is connected to the hot pipe minus the check valve and to the flow pipe. The Mi's also stress the gas pipe should a minimum of 22mm from a governed meter to the appliance. It is 15mm on this installation. And yes you can run the condensate to a rain water gutter that was not really the problem. But at has to be to a combined rain/foul drain. And be at least 1/14" external piping and be insulated...And you have to have the permission of the people it belongs to...

 

[Boilers]

£2500 for a heatline...!! Wow fitter must be racking it in on that one

 

[Leezygeezer]

If a gas safe inspector goes to that, the installer will have to return and correct several installation defects just from what is evident on the photographs.
Condensate pipe is undersized, unsupported and not lagged, termination point is dubious, external flue not sealed, filling loop still connected and apparently to hot not cold, there's also a possibility of the gas supply pipe work being undersized

 

[Darren Jackson]

Hi Fiona, has the Gas safe inspector turned up yet & if so what was the outcome? I'm still a bit concerned for you on this one.

 

[magicno1]

Doesn't have to be on the cold side, some say cold some heating

I like cold myself as you can drain the heating down easily via the valve

Water regs!

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Water regs!

Yes all you need is either a double check on the heating or the cold water side and complys with regs

It's just either the braided hose could contain mains water or heating water depending on how / where your check valves are

 

[cr0ft]

Eek, should have remembered about bathrooms. Completely forgot about them as I've never installed a boiler in one tbh. Also if I was, I'd be selling them a consumer unit upgrade anyway to avoid cross bonding as it looks ugly

Going off to flog myself for providing non-trusted advice there..