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15 an hour is a bit cheap? i thought the going rate was about 25. im an employee so its different. i get paid 12 jib rates, im sold for 32

shaun

i do love my job and the problems get sent to. beats all the headaches i used to have!
 
ALL respect to you shaun as you know reasonably well that you have a weeks work on monday mornings.
as for the fifteen quid?. no bull- i wouldnt turn up for that even for a quote..
my dad had a delivery firm that i helped with before he died, over five years go delivering sofas etc and he used to pay £35 per hour driver and 15 for mate??????.
working for myself you can add yours and his rate per hour then i decide if i want the job or not.
if i ever get to the point im earning less than £25 an hour for plumbing im changing carreer. unless its a day rate ie. £25x10hrs

ya, sorry.
non-gas
 
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ALL respect to you shaun as you know reasonably well that you have a weeks work on monday mornings.
as for the fifteen quid?. no bull- i wouldnt turn up for that even for a quote..
my dad had a delivery firm that i helped with before he died, over five years go delivering sofas etc and he used to pay £35 per hour driver and 15 for mate??????.
working for myself you can add yours and his rate per hour then i decide if i want the job or not.
if i ever get to the point im earning less than £25 an hour for plumbing im changing carreer. unless its a day rate ie. £25x10hrs

ya, sorry.
non-gas

Are you saying £50/ hr for non gas work??. not sure I could sleep at night.
 
2+2=.....
£15+£12=£27 p.h
about a tenner short for me if its less than 4 hours work.
and about the same for a self-employed delivery driver who knows his crak and how to work it.
 
3 years ago when we were running the family business we were charging £30 per hour. We gave it up because we were barely breaking even and the local market wouldn't stand any more. Time you figure in public liability insurance, vehicle running costs and insurance, repairs and renewals of tools, CORGI membership and then figure in the number of non profitable hours spent pricing, invoicing etc. we were earning around £8 per hour.

A sole trader doesn't have quite so many overheads but if you're not recompensing yourself properly for the number of hours that you put in then you may as well get a job (like i did).

Mike
 
quiz....

if company (a) charge £45 per hour runing a yard and 20 staff,
company (b) charge £45 per hour running a van a home and 'yours truly'.
customer (c) gets the same job done either way.

1, who earns the most profit ?.
2, who gets the job done cheaper ?.

answer,, welcome to the 21st century buisness ecconomics and marketing practices.

only difference is employee welfare and longer lunch breaks when you have nowt on.
 
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Hmm!

I though most firms put in "guesstimates" and hope for the best. Making high ones when busy and low ones when not. :)

I've worked in companies where the pricing has been more or less based on what they think the customer can afford. Up here the Housing Assocaitons rule the roost on bread and butter everyday domestic work. You don't tell them your rate they tell you theirs, then its take it or leave it, plenty of others who will do the job.

I suppose being fair companies want a mark up of at least 10% an hour clear, in this day and age. Its better than you get leaving the money sitting in the bank. Imagine a high street retailer probably makes something like 4-500% mark up on some things, but they usually seem to go bust pretty quick even then.
 
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was on £7.25 in old job plumbing
moved into maintance at a unversity and with call out now take about £25.000 a year but have got gas ticket as well but they dont want to pay me extra for that as they paid (dont get that somehow)
 
As I said earlier in this thread, last year's 'State of the Trade' survey returned a median hourly rate of £40/hour for gas work and £33/hour for plumbing work.The corresponding figures for the year before were £35/hr for gas and £30/hr for plumbing. These figures relate to the south of England.

We are working with 'Heating & Plumbing Magazine' on this year's survey and national figures will be published later this year and more detailed figures for PO, SO, BN and GU postcodes in our newsletter, Williams Weekly.

You can see our newsletter here [DLMURL="http://www.ukplumbersforums.co.uk/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.williams.uk.com%2F"]Trade Only plumbing & Heating supplies[/DLMURL]

Because we don't sell to the public, you would need to PM me to get a password, but only if you are in the trade.
 
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had a leaflet through the door from a training center stating that you could earn £90.00 an hour as a plumber thats £720 a day which comes to £187,200 per year verified by reports from the daily mail/express so it must be true, personally i wouldnt get out of bed for that sort of money

Pimlico Plumbers charge £90 an hour, but the actual plumber gets £45.

I'd only do four hours a day ;-)
 
Gas Installers Earn between £25,000 to £35,000 a year I believe.
 
If you cant earn more than 35k a year whats the point , might as well be a postman at least youd be home by lunchtime!
 
wages are around 25 to 30 k which for fiddling around with a boiler is good - beats being an office manager ect - go for it - thats wot i am doing - and forget the recession - when a boiler goes people always FIND the money or go without heating or hot water -
 
I know a guy who charges £90 /hr for boiler repairs but he doesnt hang around. He finds the problem quick and on average fixes it there and then(with no call out fee).
Like myself i charge what i believe i am worth! If you have either studied hard or have gained the experience that is why you can charge.
Anyone hanging around for their hourly rate when they could be fixing someone elses boiler(or down the pub!) are not we need in the business. Good old ethics go a long way in my book. Nice site guys
 
Hello All

I'm just about to start a apprenticeships with British Gas to become a Corgi gas man. Pretty happy with their training package and wages after qualifying. What I'd really like to know is what a realistic wage self employed is. People have been telling my 50-100k.

Bit much to ask strangers what they earn but it private, in a way.

Cheers

When I started my apprenticship I was on £27.40 a week in 1974,that was a lot of money as I was an apprentice industrial plumber,the normal trainee plumbers were on £16.00 to 18.00 a week
With your regard to siduation at British gas ,you are about to start a great apprenticeship ,if you are thinking big earning ,use you time wisely,learn as much as possible,do not fall into the trap of doing just enough to get through as many do,use the facilites well
Once you have finished, gain a little experiance,then you can brach out if you wish but remember Britsh gas are a big organisation,so leave on good terms and if you have done your training well they will always have you back,which is a good cusion to fall back on,you could even sub contract to them when you start on your own giving you a good spring board to your own works
However you may just think British gas ,job for life,van and tools,good holidays,good pension ect will stay put
Anyway the point is really yes you can earn a good living but first get your head down and learn as much as possible and be good at what you learn
good luck
 
Hi mate,
you very lucky man..thats a lots of money?i dont think so they will give you that money? BG they are bussiness minded people.. I run a small corgi bussiness local base london..I never accross that amount of money as a trinee or even qualified??? Anyway, Good luck mate
 
Received this e mail today, did not think they sent them any more as everyone surely knows the scam and anyway the sender obviously did not know I was a plumber, otherwise he would now we would not get out of bed for the measly $10.5 million cut offered :D...................Damp just dropped £2 coin, rolled through gap of floor boards, now I am going to have to spend the next hour lifting floor boards to get to it :(:p

Date: 04/07/09 00:54:26
Subject: RE: CITI BANK INFO



Dear Friend.

Good Day.

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My name is Dr. Brand Vannoy, I am Account Manager of Citi Bank of Africa (Nigerian Branch). I contacted you on a business Transfer that requires confidentiality, Trust and transparency,where both of us have a lot to Benefit. During our auditing Accounts section, I discovered a huge sum of money US$20.5M, (Twenty Million Five Hundred Thousand United State Dollars, deposited by our late customer, a foreigner who died On the 21st of April 2000, Engr. Harold Bowen, his wife and their two Children were involved in a car accident in a remote village called Kuru near Jos in Plateau State. All occupants of the car Unfortunately lost their lives. Since then I have made several enquiries to his embassy here in Lagos-Nigeria to locate any of Harold Bowen Extended relatives, this has also proved unsuccessful to locate any member of his family.

Now the management of the bank has issued a notice to provide the next of kin to claim the funds or they have the account frozen. Since I have been unsuccessful in locating the relatives for over 6 years now, I contacted you to seek your consent to present you as the next of kin to the deceased since you are a foreigner so that the proceeds of this
account valued at US$20.5M, can be transfer to your account that you would provided, then we can share the money 50%/ for me and 50% for you because I am not a greedy person and is a deal between me and you!

Finally, I have made an arrangement with an attorney who will work on your behalf and secure all the necessary legal documentation that would indicate you as the Beneficiary of the fund to back up this claim, and this I must do to make sure that this fund is not wasted or end up in the wrong hands. All I require is your honest co-operation to enable us sees this deal through and secures all the legal documents. I guarantee you that this transaction will be executed under a legitimate arrangement that will protect you and I from any breach of the law.

If you are interested in this deal, kindly get back to me with your complete information, as follow. Your Private telephone and Fax numbers, and Cell phone; Your full Name
and Address.

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Mind you they are slipping as usually ask for all bank details to !!:)
 
Hi Mat, did you have to wait long to get in with British Gas?, I've been on their web site and nothing available currently, I have left my details and they say they'll contact me if anything comes up. definetly looks like the best way in to gas mate, being paid to learn rather than forking out for a course with no guarantees of work.
 
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