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mollymoo
Hello everyone,
I am hoping that you can help us out with an issue regarding our sons training, I know this is the plumbers forum but I wanted to find out some 'real world' answers before we commit to paying out ££££ for a qualification that he may or may not, need.
He is undertaking a 5 year plumbing & gas apprenticeship and is presently working towards completing his NVQ Level 3 but is getting a bit worried about what is called 'Part P electrics'
The NVQ Level 3 covers wiring but some of the other lads on his day release college course have started to undertake Part P domestic electric installer courses to get on competent person schemes - There seems to be a 'panic' on to do this and get on these schemes before next year when all domestic electrical work can only be completed by those with an NVQ Level 3 in electrics (Which I can understand from a safety point of view) which has got him a bit unerved as he hsn't been offered the chance to do a Part P scheme by his employer (Basically his employer won't pay for the extra qualification)
Our sons employer is Part P registered himself so can self certify any new installations that he may put in but our concern is that should our son ever go self employed (which is his long term goal) that he might be at a disadvantage if he isn't on an electrical comptence scheme.
Our question is in the real world of gas fitting do any of you qualified Gas fitters do any 'notifiable' work on a day to day basis of changing/ replacing/ servicing boilers etc?
Paul, our son, has already said that the only electrical work HE does on site is replacing showers like for like which is non notifiable (and has even said that once he goes self employed in a few years any major refits that involve major work like new circuits he would just get an electrician in for) - Any new installs at present his boss does, but even when I have spoken to his employer direct about this subject he won't give me a straight answer for whatever reason (We think he is frightened that once our son has completed his 5 years he will just up and leave so wants to 'keep' him which is good on one hand but I don't want Paul to be left disadvantaged long term because of his employers reluctance to help him further his career outside of his company)
Because of this if Paul is to do the Part P course, the 17th edition & the CG inspection and testing, join a competent person scheme and buy the required test equipment we will have to pay it for him - so far we have worked it out at 3k ++ to get it all done together with the annual membership fees of the schemes. We don't mind putting ourselves in a financial hole if it helps him long term but we don't want to have to take out a loan if he isn't going to use the Part P on anything other than a regular basis!
Please please please can I have some straight talking answers from the gas fitters out there? On the 'wet' side of plumbing I know what the scope of electrical work is involved but haven't got a clue what the Gas boys do on a day to day basis that might be classed as 'notifiable' ?!
I am hoping that you can help us out with an issue regarding our sons training, I know this is the plumbers forum but I wanted to find out some 'real world' answers before we commit to paying out ££££ for a qualification that he may or may not, need.
He is undertaking a 5 year plumbing & gas apprenticeship and is presently working towards completing his NVQ Level 3 but is getting a bit worried about what is called 'Part P electrics'
The NVQ Level 3 covers wiring but some of the other lads on his day release college course have started to undertake Part P domestic electric installer courses to get on competent person schemes - There seems to be a 'panic' on to do this and get on these schemes before next year when all domestic electrical work can only be completed by those with an NVQ Level 3 in electrics (Which I can understand from a safety point of view) which has got him a bit unerved as he hsn't been offered the chance to do a Part P scheme by his employer (Basically his employer won't pay for the extra qualification)
Our sons employer is Part P registered himself so can self certify any new installations that he may put in but our concern is that should our son ever go self employed (which is his long term goal) that he might be at a disadvantage if he isn't on an electrical comptence scheme.
Our question is in the real world of gas fitting do any of you qualified Gas fitters do any 'notifiable' work on a day to day basis of changing/ replacing/ servicing boilers etc?
Paul, our son, has already said that the only electrical work HE does on site is replacing showers like for like which is non notifiable (and has even said that once he goes self employed in a few years any major refits that involve major work like new circuits he would just get an electrician in for) - Any new installs at present his boss does, but even when I have spoken to his employer direct about this subject he won't give me a straight answer for whatever reason (We think he is frightened that once our son has completed his 5 years he will just up and leave so wants to 'keep' him which is good on one hand but I don't want Paul to be left disadvantaged long term because of his employers reluctance to help him further his career outside of his company)
Because of this if Paul is to do the Part P course, the 17th edition & the CG inspection and testing, join a competent person scheme and buy the required test equipment we will have to pay it for him - so far we have worked it out at 3k ++ to get it all done together with the annual membership fees of the schemes. We don't mind putting ourselves in a financial hole if it helps him long term but we don't want to have to take out a loan if he isn't going to use the Part P on anything other than a regular basis!
Please please please can I have some straight talking answers from the gas fitters out there? On the 'wet' side of plumbing I know what the scope of electrical work is involved but haven't got a clue what the Gas boys do on a day to day basis that might be classed as 'notifiable' ?!