Gas Safe Engineer doing a foreigner - what should I ask?

[Millsy 82]

£500,00??

Initial isn't far off it. I think it was £480 or something like that.

 

[Millsy 82]

There is no deterrent

Exactly so the people dont really care.

 

[Harvest Fields]

Initial isn't far off it. I think it was £480 or something like that.

I’ve never paid anywhere near that!

 

[Millsy 82]

I’ve never paid anywhere near that!

Just looked. Initial is £434 after that £180.

 

[Harvest Fields]

Just looked. Initial is £434 after that £180.

Still never paid that.

 

[Darren Jackson]

which law exactly? The Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations 1998 state that you must be a competent person to work on gas appliances. The Gas Safe Register is not mentioned in any UK legislation, being on the register is a good way to prove that you are a competent person.

And in the eyes of the law being gas safe registered is the only acceptable proof that you are deemed a competent person.

 

[Burger]

And in the eyes of the law being gas safe registered is the only acceptable proof that you are deemed a competent person.

I thought it was your acs that deemed you competent and Gas safe allows you to work for remuneration?

 

[Riley]

It’s somantics though under current rules this engineer doesn’t meet the required criteria in order to install a boiler under his own name

 

[Aire]

I thought it was your acs that deemed you competent and Gas safe allows you to work for remuneration?

Yes but you can't turn up at someone's house and show them your acs certificates can you. You have to be registered to legally work as a business, but it also shows your customers you are competent to work on gas.

 

[Burger]

It’s somantics though under current rules this engineer doesn’t meet the required criteria in order to install a boiler under his own name

Yes mate I get that, but under gsiur you are allowed to be competent, and not be a member of an approved of an approved class of persons (currently gas safe) if working without financial reward or gain. He should indeed have his own gas safe registration to carry out this job as he’s quoted for it.

 

[Burger]

Yes but you can't turn up at someone's house and show them your acs certificates can you. You have to be registered to legally work as a business, but it also shows your customers you are competent to work on gas.

Yes I get that as well. Businesses whether self employed or not carrying out gas fitting work for financial reward or gain (which is what he’s doing) must be a member of an approved class of persons - currently gas safe.

 

[Riley]

So I’m not sure I get your argument we are in agreement that in this case the bloke can’t do the job and that was the question. I’m sick of the competent grey area

 

[Burger]

So I’m not sure I get your argument we are in agreement that in this case the bloke can’t do the job and that was the question. I’m sick of the competent grey area

It’s not an argument, just quoting what is in gsiur. We agree on the fact that the bloke can’t do the job because he’s earning money from it without his own registration yes. However I don’t have my own gas safe registration, I work for a company who is registered, yet if I leave it doesn’t make me incompetent.

 

[Riley]

But again I don’t disagree with you mate??? I’d hope you wouldn’t carry out work without your own card though

 

[Burger]

But again I don’t disagree with you mate??? I’d hope you wouldn’t carry out work without your own card though

No I wouldn’t.

 

[Stigster]

I think the most important thing apart from actually being competent, is proof of competence and a gas safe registration does that, in theory at least and legally speaking that is enough.

 

[firemant]

Still never paid that.

Depends on when you started. I joined CORGI when it first became mandatory, in about 1990, so have a 5 digit number. Cost was fairly minimal IIRC

 

[Harvest Fields]

Depends on when you started. I joined CORGI when it first became mandatory, in about 1990, so have a 5 digit number. Cost was fairly minimal IIRC

Joined the year before the change over.

 

[oz-plumber]

Its all about insurance and warranty's
We have the same issues over here.

You can work for a company as a registered plumber and you are covered by their insurance.
You work for yourself, you have to have insurance for the work that you do.

Plenty of registered Plumbers have come unstuck performing work they are covered for working for a Boss, but not covered for working for themselves on the side.

Home owners aren't going to hush up if there is an insurance claim, or warranty claim, on their property regarding work done by a non insured plumber. They will fess up to who did the work and sue him / her for costs of repairs.

 

[Millsy 82]

Its all about insurance and warranty's
We have the same issues over here.

You can work for a company as a registered plumber and you are covered by their insurance.
You work for yourself, you have to have insurance for the work that you do.

Plenty of registered Plumbers have come unstuck performing work they are covered for working for a Boss, but not covered for working for themselves on the side.

Home owners aren't going to hush up if there is an insurance claim, or warranty claim, on their property regarding work done by a non insured plumber. They will fess up to who did the work and sue him / her for costs of repairs.

Problem is pay cash no receipts etc no proof they have worked in your property then then case to sue them.

 

[EvilDrPorkChop]

Depends on when you started. I joined CORGI when it first became mandatory, in about 1990, so have a 5 digit number. Cost was fairly minimal IIRC

Don't see so many 5 digit numbers these days...ours is 5 too Not entirely sure when we joined though.