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Getting a job as a plumber with a criminal record?

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The reform seems to be coming into play in November. So looks good for ex cons trying to go straight
 
Sag said:
As apposed to a 'non serious' sex offender?
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There were 471 sex offences reported in Bournemouth and Poole division in 2008/09. Of these, 320 were reported to have happened in Bournemouth.
Out of the total sex offences recorded in the two towns, 123 were rapes, 198 were sexual assaults, 22 were other serious sexual offences and 128 non-serious sexual offences.
You tell me...
Bournemouth among worst ten for sex crimes (From Bournemouth Echo)
 
Sexual offenders are a whole different ball game!! I am referring to the OP thread heading!!
 
Even sexual offenders come in "grades" of seriousness.

Get ratted on your stag night and flash your tackle in the street? You could find yourself on the sex-offenders register.
 
why don't you do the course and keep your nose clean, then speak to your gaffa and try and get an apprentiship maybe as a maintainence plumber in the prison? mega long shot what with crb and the likes but they know you and know your history and more importantly that your on the straight and narrow
 
I'm assuming this course is free? Payed for by tax payers? Grab it with both hands. Better that paying 6 grand to the other criminals for a worthless bit of paper.
 
kirkgas said:
It depends on the crime, child molesters do not deserve a second chance
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Maybe a 2 second chance to get into a better spread
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Ive got a caution on my record from when I was 18. I found a train pass on the floor and used it. Im ow 33 and still have to explain this. The fact im honest about it speaks volumes. I had a crb check done for my current role and was horrified to see what it said. Apparantly as a dumb teenager I signed the caution without looking trusting the police officer for theft and fraud!!!! I know am classed as bad as someone who steals shed loads of money or cons old people for bunking a train
Obviously I now have a hatred for police officers.
 
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stevetheplumber said:
when i started this game at least half the workforce had some sort of criminal record for some reason it was the painters who were worst then i found out it was one of the main courses the boys could do in borstal
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I don't even know what courses they will have - depends on what prison I get. I'm 20 so my brief said i would be in Young Offenders first and then prison when I'm 21. He said it will probably be Feltham at first but it could be some prison that has a Young Offenders wing especially if I'm going to have to be transferred after a few months anyway. I heard that Feltham is pretty bad so hoping I get somewhere else

I got GCSEs but don't think there's much point thinking about A Levels now

Jimbob said:
Problem is you'll be going up against lists of guys who don't have records and have the same skills. So who are they going to employ?

You would probably be best off keeping quiet about it and going self employed and work that way when you're done. Your offence isn't uncommon, I don't loads of guys who have been done for gbh and I have no problem working with them.
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Yeah I know it will be hard whatever I do especially these days when I know lads who have no records and can't get work but have to be thinking that someone will give me a chance.

Ermintrude said:
Good luck! Lad I knew went in for 5, came out different bloke. Straight as he could be after doing 5 years, set up own joinery business now has about 12 lads and owns a few houses. He got everything taken through proceeds of crime so fresh start. Also.... Went in a phat git, now ripped health freak!
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Sounds good - can only dream of ending up like that. If someone like that can start again and do well then there's hope for someone like me.

nysk2008 said:
why don't you do the course and keep your nose clean, then speak to your gaffa and try and get an apprentiship maybe as a maintainence plumber in the prison? mega long shot what with crb and the likes but they know you and know your history and more importantly that your on the straight and narrow
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I'll be nearly 22 I think when I get out - probably a bit old to start an apprentiship. I'm definitely going to do something when I'm in there - pass the time and better than being in a cell and you get extra allowance for doing it. At least people will see I am trying to make me better

APPlumbing said:
I'm assuming this course is free? Payed for by tax payers? Grab it with both hands. Better that paying 6 grand to the other criminals for a worthless bit of paper.
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That's one of the good things about all this

zeebeedee said:
Ive got a caution on my record from when I was 18. I found a train pass on the floor and used it. Im ow 33 and still have to explain this. The fact im honest about it speaks volumes. I had a crb check done for my current role and was horrified to see what it said. Apparantly as a dumb teenager I signed the caution without looking trusting the police officer for theft and fraud!!!! I know am classed as bad as someone who steals shed loads of money or cons old people for bunking a train
Obviously I now have a hatred for police officers.
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Man that's crazy. Thought cautions you didn't even have to declare. Do they tell employers about even that. My record will be even worse then if everything I done is on it
 
A crb check will show everything you have done as an adult in other words 18 and over
 
zeebeedee said:
A crb check will show everything you have done as an adult in other words 18 and over
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It shouldn't.
After ten years without further offences. You are declared rehabilitated by act of parliament. Past crimes won't show on crb unless its an enhanced crb which can only be conducted on applicants for jobs that involve children or other sensitive occupations. Or obviously if the offence was sexual which will always show.
 
paulm said:
I don't even know what courses they will have - depends on what prison I get. I'm 20 so my brief said i would be in Young Offenders first and then prison when I'm 21. He said it will probably be Feltham at first but it could be some prison that has a Young Offenders wing especially if I'm going to have to be transferred after a few months anyway. I heard that Feltham is pretty bad so hoping I get somewhere else

I got GCSEs but don't think there's much point thinking about A Levels now



Yeah I know it will be hard whatever I do especially these days when I know lads who have no records and can't get work but have to be thinking that someone will give me a chance.



Sounds good - can only dream of ending up like that. If someone like that can start again and do well then there's hope for someone like me.



I'll be nearly 22 I think when I get out - probably a bit old to start an apprentiship. I'm definitely going to do something when I'm in there - pass the time and better than being in a cell and you get extra allowance for doing it. At least people will see I am trying to make me better



That's one of the good things about all this



Man that's crazy. Thought cautions you didn't even have to declare. Do they tell employers about even that. My record will be even worse then if everything I done is on it
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22 isn't old, you may not get on apprenticeship but more than one way to skin a cat. Do every course and qualification available in the clink. Going to take some restraint not to end up getting into more trouble in prison. Will you be eligible for training grant when u leave? I would try and get A-level in clink as will show perspective employers you are no longer and idiot and intend to make an input into society and not simply circulate in the rubbish justice system we have.
 
kay-jay said:
It shouldn't.
After ten years without further offences. You are declared rehabilitated by act of parliament. Past crimes won't show on crb unless its an enhanced crb which can only be conducted on applicants for jobs that involve children or other sensitive occupations. Or obviously if the offence was sexual which will always show.
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Mine was well over 10 years and still showed up. Can I get it removed then?
 
Saying that mine was probably enhanced. Working in social housing brings you in contact with kids and vulnerable adults.
 
Is this what my wonderful trade has come too, crims in Plumbing cowboy courses in the nick?? A Cell Bi.ch becoming a Plumber?? OMG!!! I can hear the old boys I did my apprenticeship with turning in their grave! Is this how low we have become, the dregs of society fighting for our work?
 
Dickie said:
Is this what my wonderful trade has come too, crims in Plumbing cowboy courses in the nick?? A Cell Bi.ch becoming a Plumber?? OMG!!! I can hear the old boys I did my apprenticeship with turning in their grave! Is this how low we have become, the dregs of society fighting for our work?
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So, nobody should get a second chance? Or they can as long as it's not in 'your' trade?
 
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