getting my c & g plumbing and heating and nvq 2

[WaterTight]

Hi all

i have just been offered a possition as a plumbers mate with a plumbing and gas installer. He has asked for me to try and saught my c & g nvq level 2 plumbing and heating qualification out. i found a "15 Day City & Guilds Plumbing, Bathroom Fitting and Heating Systems Course" on Plumbing Training Courses in Staffordshire and Wolverhampton in the West Midlands
now i know this course isnt gonna give me any where near enough experience but as i stated i am doing it for the qualification and will get more than enough experience whilst at work. so what my question is: has any one had any experience with this training center and do they give a full city and guilds certification and nvq 2 at the end of it.

thanks

You said he was a plumbing and gas installer. Does he only do boiler installs then? Otherwise sounds like you might benefit from a plumbing qual too.

You potential boss had said he'd like you to get your NVQ level 2. There you go. Your mission is simple. If you want to do what he says you need to get your Tech Cert and then your NVQ. There are training centres offering fast track courses where you can get your tech cert in as little as 12 weeks. Your NVQ is then assessed on the job.

However, since you have not got much money perhaps college would be a better route - more time to be working with your boss rather than in a training centre, much cheaper and a better thought of route.

If your boss wants you to have the quals asap then you need fast track. But you won't be available to work with him much.

 

[Resolute]

ok well my problem there is, i will only be dealing with boilers and heating and a nvq covers more than that so how will i get around this?

Are you sure it'll only be boilers and heaters? No rad installs? No basic maintenance?

 

[danielclark]

sorry yes boilers and rad installs, my mistake. i dnt really mind how i do it but i jus bit confused on how im gonna do it. in march i will have to work full time. my boss wants me to get my tech cert and nvq 2 as this will help me in the future. i think i have 2 roughts either go night classes in a collage which i have been struggling to find or go for a fast track course which i am more than happy to do but not so happy spending 4000+ on it. i am happy to do the fast track course any where in the country if you know any good ones and value for money. if i do the collage route ill need it be in essex vacinity and next prob is most collages seem to want you to have grade c's and above. any help is appreciated.
thanks dan

 

[jtsplumbing]

Q` if you only want to work on boilers and not to intrested in the plumbing side ! have you thought about trying for employment with one of the boiler manufacturers ??

 

[danielclark]

na i havent i am a ceiling and partition fixer by trade but my friend is giving me a gr8 opportunity to get my foot in the door doing boilers etc he is looking to get his commercial in gas next year and wants to give me the same opportunities he has had

 

[jtsplumbing]

Good for you ! I would still think about ringing around the boiler manufacturers, you will get good training and the best part is they pay for it all, Commercial good move , consider haveing a go at Oil . I would have gone down this route if I was younger.

 

[danielclark]

i understand what your saying but i think this rought is gd as i will be getting 1000 take home a month already been agreed as i have experience with flues, cutting out coreholes and can do the bracketing. within 6 months i should be getting a pay rise. my plan at the moment is to jus get the necessary certifcates and do my nvq, then get my gas saughted. after that i will see what other roughts i can go down. do i need a tech cert to get my nvq? or would i be able to do a portfolio and an onsite nvq 2 ?

 

[vipey]

why dont you phone the collages in your area my collage course was 1 day a week for 2 years (level 2 tech cirt) and then at same time do ya nvq level 2 then if you want do your level 3 tech cirt and level 3 nvq , at least you will also get a lot of knowledge from collage and from working ,

 

[Gray0689]

You need to look at that c&g cert from that course it won't lead on to an nvq

 

[gravytrain]

hi, the course you linked to will not help you at all. its way too basic and does not lead to the NVQ as has allready been said
there are only two options, quick way, cough up £££££'s for quick 12 week intensive to get 6129
then do NVQ2 with your employer as your portfolio workplace recorder. then followed by gas

or college over years getting the same qualifications but much more useful experience.
ask your new employer what he is actually expecting

if you have problems with college wanting grades you havent got get in touch with them and tell them your situation

as you say this is a fantastic offer that many are struggling to get at the moment so dont blow it by
trying to by-pass the route you should be taking.

good luck

 

[danielclark]

that's exactly what i was looking for, a good detailed summary of the options i have. thank you very much . does any one know what the pass rates are in these intensive courses?

 

[Gray0689]

You pay £4000 and you will pass
Think you need to look on to this more
It would of taken you 5 mins with google to find out that course was useless

 

[danielclark]

ok i think you may be right about the being my path. i would have known if it was any gd or not but it didnt come up with the course number eg 6129. so wasnt sure.
thanks dan

 

[PlumbBobBob]

i think it says on the advert that you get a c&g course credit which means that you would have to do many of these courses to gain a full c&g qualification.

 

[fuzzy]

wow i have said im doing it for the qualification notr to learn ill be learning all day long with my boss. its £700 m8, i know what you meen some charge thousands. i may not even do my nvq now as im gonna build a big portfolio for proof of what i have done and know. then once im ready im gonna go for my gas.
im gonna say this one more time so every one understands, i am not looking for some magicc course thats gonna make me fullly qualified in 2 weeks, i will be doing the course and then working as a fitters m8, picking up and learning all i can. reading the books that are used in collages to learn at home and getting plenty of practical practice and knowledge at work.
i hope this clears up this matter of people telling me im not gonna be qualified cos of a course because i know this.
thnaks dan

then why do it?

 

[fuzzy]

why does it meen nothing? its a city and guild paper and will be given a city and guild certification at the end of it which i fought was a recognised certificate. im getting well confused lol sorry

recognised by who? c&g do lots of quals, they do a level 1 basic construction, does that make you a builder? obviously no, so by quting a awarding body means nothing, its the qual you need to be looking at

 

[fuzzy]

i understand what your saying but i think this rought is gd as i will be getting 1000 take home a month already been agreed as i have experience with flues, cutting out coreholes and can do the bracketing. within 6 months i should be getting a pay rise. my plan at the moment is to jus get the necessary certifcates and do my nvq, then get my gas saughted. after that i will see what other roughts i can go down. do i need a tech cert to get my nvq? or would i be able to do a portfolio and an onsite nvq 2 ?

need tc or tc exams

 

[WaterTight]

my experienced of a fast track training centre was no matter how stupid you are, no matter how poor your school results if you have the money then magically you will pass the entrance test and on you go. there were two kids in my class who were quite possibly suffering from severe learning disorders.

 

[fuzzy]

money is the answer to many things, but id be careful throwing money at this in the hope of getting a qual

 

[danielclark]

What do you meen be careful?

 

[fuzzy]

fairly straight forward i thought. be careful you dont waste your money