Help needed with a cream coloured nightmare

[Best]

so how do you cope when its the only bathroom and they want to use the pan in an hour

I tell the customers to go elsewhere.
Truthfully, the new toilets that are in unoccupied properties, or where the home has other toilets, then no bother as I make sure it is left unused for hopefully a day at least.
On toilets that will be used shortly, I just advise the customer to take great care with it.
Frankly, the large base pans are very stable and I only would be concerned if a heavyweight person was to sit on it.
There is the concern that cleaning chemicals might attack the silicone eventually, but all seem good

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Naaa wouldn't approve it my end always screw them down

 

[Old Account]

Naaa wouldn't approve it my end always screw them down

But you are not always able to screw down. How do you know there aren’t any pipes, wires and god knows what down below?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

But you are not always able to screw down. How do you know there aren’t any pipes, wires and god knows what down below?

Shouldn't be any pipes below or in the screed that close any way

 

[Best]

Naaa wouldn't approve it my end always screw them down

I still do screw them down Shaun, although often with short screws. Not really going to need the screw fixings anyway as they are almost cosmetic due to not being strong enough if just the usual 2 fixing at rear sides of pan. If the pan can't get slight movement, then no risk of the screw fixings gradually working loose. That's where the silicone IMO helps greatly. Always clear silicone, - white is just too obvious.
Am sure not all tiles are suitable for silicone though.

 

[Old Account]

Shouldn't be any pipes below or in the screed that close any way

Shouldn’t sounds good though ... you should know better than me in England it’s not possible due to millions of different installers.

You talk from the ideal world of plumbing but coming back to the reality ... it’s unfortunately different and people install pipes you would even think off doing it

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Shouldn’t sounds good though . you should know better than me in England it’s not possible due to millions of different installers.

You talk from the ideal world of plumbing but coming back to the reality . it’s unfortunately different and people install pipes you would even think off doing it

It's building regs

 

[WaterTight]

Once a decent amount of silicone has set on a decent size pan on a smooth level tiled floor you wouldn't be able to kick it over with a running start.

I always use screws if I can, plastic wedges in any gaps if that's causing a problem, add a bit of silicone for belt and braces if its proving a pain. But sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.

Shaun is like Mr Best Practice and I very much respect that but I suspect if every plumber in the country suddenly had to do everything 100% by the book every time or they'd drop dead, there'd be about 5 left working in the country by Monday. Shaun sounds like he'd be one of them.

 

[Stigster]

Shouldn't be any pipes below or in the screed that close any way[/Q]

"Shouldn't" doesn't mean aren't!

 

[ShaunCorbs]

So what do you do on timber floor either old t and g or chip

Don't say mastic

 

[ShaunCorbs]

"shouldn't doesn't mean arnt

Haven't hit one yet

 

[Best]

So what do you do on timber floor either old t and g or chip

Don't say mastic

I used putty to bed toilets down to wood floors back in the day when it was the norm to fix to bare wood floor.
Silicone still reasonably good for to a wood floor, but won’t have same grip strength as onto tiled floors would.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

I used putty to bed toilets down to wood floors back in the day when it was the norm to fix to bare wood floor.
Silicone still reasonably good for to a wood floor, but won’t have same grip strength as onto tiled floors would.

What happens if it's Lino still mastic ?

And can't imagine mastic and carpet mix

 

[Best]

What happens if it's Lino still mastic ?

And can't imagine mastic and carpet mix

Not sure what was used, if anything, on vinyl tiles years ago. I suppose soft putty was still a possibility. I can’t remember what I used on them.
It is all coming back to me using putty. What horrible stuff it was and you could see it squeezing when the pan got final tightening. Then trim with a knife.
The oil from the putty soaked into floor and it always looked like a water leak.
Soft vinyl floors the pan tends to bed into nicely, but a bead of silicone keeps the area more hygienic because it prevents any damp getting below the pan.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Not sure what was used, if anything, on vinyl tiles years ago. I suppose soft putty was still a possibility. I can’t remember what I used on them.
It is all coming back to me using putty. What horrible stuff it was and you could see it squeezing when the pan got final tightening. Then trim with a knife.
The oil from the putty soaked into floor and it always looked like a water leak.
Soft vinyl floors the pan tends to bed into nicely, but a bead of silicone keeps the area more hygienic because it prevents any damp getting below the pan.

Bet you mixed some paint with it

 

[Last Plumber]

I know this may have been asked, I have skim read this.
How did you break it?

 

[Best]

Bet you mixed some paint with it

Linseed oil added sometimes. Had to work the putty in my hands like a baker with dough, to get it workable.
Boss White paste was good to first apply onto the dry old floorboards to get the putty to stick.
Glad to not be using putty now.
The putty on pans fitted 50 plus years ago turns as hard as stone on the wood and you have to carefully chisel it off, as you probably have come across

 

[Best]

I know this may have been asked, I have skim read this.
How did you break it?

Total guess, but I thought possibility he pulled himself up while holding onto the basin.
I know that is something I would do if bending down or on my knees working at the toilet.

 

[Phil]

My guess is Watertight has tried to ease the stupid thing off to get to into the cistern, cracked it and then for a micro second had that thought "maybe I can actually just do a runner?" but did the right thing and gone downstairs to be asked "how is it going?"...erm..

 

[Old Account]

It's building regs

I get your point and agree but you know how it is in England

 

[Scott_D]

He was having a sit down wee in the basin and it snapped

 

[Last Plumber]

As long as that's all !
Nothing bigger

 

[Old Account]

Better than a sit down Number 2

That way it would have been very messy after a curry night with lots of alcohol

 

[Last Plumber]

Sorry Match, I edited that whilst you awarded me with the medal lol

 

[Last Plumber]

That way it would have been very messy after a curry night with lots of alcohol

Ew !
Minging!