help pricing a big job!

[kay-jay]

ive been offered a big job! (alright to some of you it won't be considered big but in the current climate i'm pretty chuffed)
and i don't want to sell myself short or overcharge the customer.

any help with pricing the following would be much appreciated.

job details.

new build 700k house. first fix already done.

i need to hang 6 towel rads (pipes and fixings in place already)

install 6 toilets and 6 basins including all connections to stack (holes already cored)

4 shower cubicles (trays already installed) waste connections to stack

install 5 mixer showers (again pipework done)

1 full shower tray and cubicle and shower in garage for the dogs!!!

2 baths first fix done (one is a whirlpool bath)

3 soil stacks with branches etc (rest bends already in place)


job is in north west.


thanks guys


KJ

 

[SimonG]

Nice one Kay-Jay, sounds like good work.

First thing I would want to know is why first fixer is not completing job. Then a check on pipe centres cores etc in correct place, I'd have a statement on the estimate saying that you will take pipe centres and holes as correct and any mods required are over and above price.

Just break it down as you have above, materials is pretty straight forward.

Just take each line as a seperate job and price accordingly. Without knowing how flash or basic the sanitaryware or shower cubicles etc are it can be a little bit difficult.

Don't forget to allow return visits if they need tilers or decorators in, although with a list like that when you start it at least if somebody else needs to be in there's plenty to drop onto.

I would be looking at 7 to 8 days and thats just off the top of my head, maybe allow a little extra, give the customer some idea of how long and don't forget to not gaurantee any existing pipework, should have been tested but don't get yourself landed with issues not of your making.

Hope it helps and good luck.

 

[BLOD]

Good advice from simong !
I'd even go as far as speaking to the plumber who did the first fix if possible.

That's a lot of work to get knocked for !

 

[WHPES]

Check that the initial first fix is done properly. I did a similar job when I started out and the shower tray leaked so I had to pull everything out and redo it at my expense including part retiling, setting me back about £100 plus one days work out of pocket. Check existing work is to standard, pressure test pipework etc. NEVER ASSUME it is OK and state in your quotation / estimate that you are not responsible for what has gone before (sounds obvious I know but you need to put it in) and that any remedial work is at additional cost.

I have on many times had to properly redo plumbing already installed in such situations. If the customer objects, walk away as it will just come back to bite you later and its not worth the risk.

 

[stevetheplumber]

break it down into several smaller jobs then add it together as already said get it in writting that any alterations are extra has the existing been tested? make it clear that any damage from leaks on existing is not your responsibility or allow a sum for dry testing picking up on unknown work is always a pain but can often be profitable with regards to the extras you pick up correcting the first fix