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I have an Alpha conventional boiler with Y Plan. Up to recently, both CH and HW worked fine but the HW would go off occasionally. Switching the main supply off and on seemed to fix that for a while.

But now the HW seems to have packed up completely. I have checked the wiring and have done as many checks as I can. Both room and cylinder thermostats seem OK. I have checked the power to terminals under different condition and there always seemed to be an anomaly that did not match the circuit diagrams. After much checking, I found that, T6 (from HW-on, going to C on cyl stat) and T7 (from HW-off, going to 2 on cyl stat and grey to motorised valve) were both powered. Perhaps T7 (HW-off) is cancelling T6 (HW-on)?

I disconnected the lead from HW-off to T 7. The motorised valve went to the mid position (A+B) but the boiler did not fire. I reconnected the lead, CH came on the valve motored to the B position, CH came on but no HW.

With heating and water calling I get power on Terminals 4,5,6,7 and 8. All this seems to indicate that the programmer is at fault and sending out both HW off and on signals but I would like to confirm this before paying £90 for an Alpha programmer.

Initially I thought that the motorised valve or motor were faulty but they seem to be moving OK and I would rather not waste £100 on replacing them without curing the problem plus the bother of draining the system.

Any help or advice gratefully received
 
Where's the valve when calling for hot water only? What make 'y'plan valve do you have installed?

Honeywell Y Plan.
I wound down the room stat and checked that the cylinder stat was calling. Valve was in position A. However, I then switched off the main supply, the valve went to position B but the bouiler did not fire.
I then wound up the room stat so it was calling for heat, valve went to positionA, the boiler fired, Terminals 4,5,6,7 and 8 became live.

There must be an explanation but I can't think of it!!
 
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Position B is hot water only, A is heating only, AB shared! No idea what you're on about regards terminals to be honest, however for the valve to move to 'A' requires a live to the white (r/stat) and grey (h/w satisfied).... Sounds like you have some dodgy wiring or a diverter actuator fault IMO :)
 
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