Illegal gas fitter receives two year prison sentence

[mikimac]

Here is a link to a story on the HSE site re an illegal gas fitter. Its makes a change to see that they are dishing out decent sentences without someone dying in the process. Illegal gas fitter receives two-year prison sentence

 

[justalex81]

good stuff! he deserves a longer sentence if you ask me.

 

[TFGplumbing]

Wow that works a "little" rough! It really amazes How someone could complete an installation and leave it in that state, shocking really. I personally couldnt leave a job if I had installed a pipe off level.

 

[dontknowitall]

"Oh it'll do, the customer probably won't notice and they won't know what the regulations are (not that I do either)", is the way these people do things.

 

[fuzzy]

ignorance from the people booking him also, there will always be people like this, good to see the law protecting us or prosecuting at least

 

[mikimac]

ignorance from the people booking him also, there will always be people like this, good to see the law protecting us or prosecuting at least

To be fair, the customer was under the impression that he was GSR & he had given the I'm GSR routine. Most of the GSR guys I know never show their cards to customers & its only by changing this & hammering it into peoples heads that unless you actually see the card theres no guarantee of GSR that things will change.

 

[quality]

I recently had a long standing customer call me as the bloke next door had written to the council complaining about the plume from the flue of their new boiler I had just fitted ( nearly 5 meters from the boundry).
I did the job as any other job "by the book"
Any way it turns out that BG had replaced his boiler ONLY with a worcester combi etc
But I installed an intergas 30E an unvented cylinder and the rest to complete what I consider to be a better system
This is the first time I have had to show my credentials
You can see where its going this poor old bloke paid £4200 to BG for a garbage system I did my job (which I do beleive is much better)
For £3750. And he could not see that his flue was pluming cause it was on the other side of his house.

Ps. I missed the point He thought I was a cowboy becase my van is not sign written

 

[< 0.004 = :-)]

old dude must be losing the plot quality or too much time on his hands, its drummed into the BG salesmen to explain about pluming issues.
do a bit subbing to em, when you turn up at a job there s a sheet they leave when they ve sold the job , with the system "design" details . section in it they need to tick to say they ve explained pluming.
when i m commisioning the boiler , i show the punter the pluming with boiler at max and mention they ll notice it more when its cold/damp.
what s the script down there with regs on installing an unvented ? up here, depending on the property type, we need to get a building warrant from council 1st and inform the water board before we can fit them , or we re meant too anyway.

 

[fuzzy]

I recently had a long standing customer call me as the bloke next door had written to the council complaining about the plume from the flue of their new boiler I had just fitted ( nearly 5 meters from the boundry).
I did the job as any other job "by the book"
Any way it turns out that BG had replaced his boiler ONLY with a worcester combi etc
But I installed an intergas 30E an unvented cylinder and the rest to complete what I consider to be a better system
This is the first time I have had to show my credentials
You can see where its going this poor old bloke paid £4200 to BG for a garbage system I did my job (which I do beleive is much better)
For £3750. And he could not see that his flue was pluming cause it was on the other side of his house.

Ps. I missed the point He thought I was a cowboy becase my van is not sign written

how dare you, i expect it to be sign written by monday - COWBOY!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[< 0.004 = :-)]

I recently had a long standing customer call me as the bloke next door had written to the council complaining about the plume from the flue of their new boiler I had just fitted ( nearly 5 meters from the boundry).
I did the job as any other job "by the book"
Any way it turns out that BG had replaced his boiler ONLY with a worcester combi etc
But I installed an intergas 30E an unvented cylinder and the rest to complete what I consider to be a better system
This is the first time I have had to show my credentials
You can see where its going this poor old bloke paid £4200 to BG for a garbage system I did my job (which I do beleive is much better)
For £3750. And he could not see that his flue was pluming cause it was on the other side of his house.

Ps. I missed the point He thought I was a cowboy becase my van is not sign written

weary of tradesmen in brand new vans with high spec livery myself , the best ones seem to have plain white.

 

[fuzzy]

weary of tradesmen in brand new vans with high spec livery myself , the best ones seem to have plain white.

i used a motor bike for years, difficult to get 6m lentgths of 22mm on though

 

[dontknowitall]

weary of tradesmen in brand new vans with high spec livery myself , the best ones seem to have plain white.

I agree but for customers there's something comforting about employing a tradesman who has a smart van. Time to buy a white van as well? Smart one for customers, grubby white one for building sites ...

 

[quality]

I agree but for customers there's something comforting about employing a tradesman who has a smart van. Time to buy a white van as well? Smart one for customers, grubby white one for building sites ...

I have a nice smart van 7 months old VW Caddy but plain blue. Come to think of it I have never had a vehicle sign written

 

[Pssst]

I think it is a good thing that unqualified people are tracked down and prosecuted becuase it protects the public and also protects the profession of gas engineering which in the long term protects our employment. I do think some of the sentences can be a little harsh but then thats not for me to decide. Good thing people are scared of gas.

 

[hermetic]

Hi, sorry to ressurect a nearly dead thread, but I read this article whilst doing research on intergas boilers and the scary thing about it is that this guy was Corgi approved and HAD passed competency, but when he did the work he so rightly went down for, his certificate had expired. Given that you don't suddenly forget all your training when your certificate expires, the chances are that this guy was a cowboy when he was working legally as well. Being a cowboy is not neccasarily a lack of training, it is a state of mind, and no ammount of competency testing will uncover it. I am an electrical engineer, so someone else does all my gas work (I have been through 3 gas safe "engineers in order to find one who serviced my boiler properly, I know how it should be done, I checked the service manual;-) Now my gas engineer has told me to get someone else cos he is retiring soon. I served a five year apprenticeship, and three years college for a C&G national diploma in Electrical Egineering. It is at this stage of training that the cowboys were rooted out of the trade (ie sacked). When Part P registration for domestic electrical work came into force (introduced by the infinite wisdom of Mr John Prescott) one of the first people to qualify in my area was an ex GPO telephone engineer with no electrical installation experience whatever. He was coached by a "mate in the trade" and passed his competency first time with little difficulty. I'm not really bothered as I always hated domestic work, and I now have an excuse to refuse it. Better still, I'll give it to the GPO guy, he has a certificate, so he must be competent eh?
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[stevetheplumber]

youve seen my van then, white as driven snow

 

[Mike Bee]

I'm not sure if the term "customers" is appropriate in this instance, surely they should call them VICTIMS !!