Landlord dispute gas boiler

[Niall Mcnamee]

why would you tamper with any boiler when the landlord would get it repaired.call his bluff and contact gas safe no way are you responsible for this.

Thanks. I have submitted a form to hse that the landlord has never provided us with a gas safety certificate and the situation im in now

 

[1Steven]

They have no proof that you did it, until they prove you did. Which is not going to happen, leave the ball in their court.

 

[StephenRowley]

They are basically saying the british gas service was done in february and i have tampered with it since then.
They now have a report from their plumber which they are using as evidence so its up to me to prove i did not tamper

No its not its up to them to prove it, in a court they've got to prove its more likely that you did the damage rather than the last person to service it.

 

[Old Account]

I always thought only gas safe engineers are allowed to open up a boiler anyone who doesn't hold the gas safe registered license will break the law. Hoewever, the pictures taken could be possible the ones from the landlord and he has opened up the boiler. Perhaps, somone of his guys, or himself has manipulated the boiler gas valve.

The way I would handle it, is exactly the way as @Best has described it. I wouldn't let anyone Soding me on my legs and it seems like they trying it with you now.

 

[Best]

I think you just need to treat it as a legal matter and simply look at it as unproven allegations to attempt to extract money of you.
I would be fuming if a landlord accused me of that.
It is essential you have a letter sent immediately to reject the allegation. Keep a copy. You don't need a solicitor to do that first letter, but just keep it basic. Leaving it for a long period before replying seems wrong. Any court will want to see what your initial rely was, although highly unlikely it will go to court.
Do not ever mention later that you know anything about the gas boiler workings! You can later say you never have seen those parts, except in the photos and have been advised by Gas Safe and gas engineers that only a qualified gas engineer can legally remove a gas boiler casing and only normally for servicing.

 

[Niall Mcnamee]

I think you just need to treat it as a legal matter and simply look at it as unproven allegations to attempt to extract money of you.
I would be fuming if a landlord accused me of that.
It is essential you have a letter sent immediately to reject the allegation. Keep a copy. You don't need a solicitor to do that first letter, but just keep it basic. Leaving it for a long period before replying seems wrong. Any court will want to see what your initial rely was, although highly unlikely it will go to court.
Do not ever mention later that you know anything about the gas boiler workings! You can later say you never have seen those parts, except in the photos and have been advised by Gas Safe and gas engineers that only a qualified gas engineer can legally remove a gas boiler casing and only normally for servicing.

Its being disputed through the deposit protection scheme. Im awaiting feedback from them. I have already reported the landlord to the HSE and hopefully it will be traceable as to who has done this or when. Im hoping this thread can be used as evidence with dps. Speaking to citizens advice in near future

 

[Best]

Its being disputed through the deposit protection scheme. Im awaiting feedback from them. I have already reported the landlord to the HSE and hopefully it will be traceable as to who has done this or when. Im hoping this thread can be used as evidence with dps. Speaking to citizens advice in near future

Good! As long as any allegations made directly or indirectly against you are denied by letter(s) to each source.
It is always a paper trail.
Be it Landlord, Letting Agent, BG, or any other, - you send each a letter to deny any tampering with boiler. Registered post advisable and doesn't cost much extra for small envelope.
Destroy a person by words.
Keep us informed of each stage

 

[Niall Mcnamee]

Update on what landlords claiming

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Hahaha they don't do anything to effect the running costs

They don't change the amount of gas being used

 

[Niall Mcnamee]

Hahaha they don't do anything to effect the running costs

They don't change the amount of gas being used

Its f*****g ridiculous now. If i wanted to reduce costs i would have turned down the thermostat on the wall or switched heating off

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Its f*****g ridiculous now. If i wanted to reduce costs i would have turned down the thermostat on the wall or switched heating off

Exactly and agree it's getting stupid now

Do bg have notes / how do they know it wasn't before they came/ then ?

 

[Niall Mcnamee]

Exactly and agree it's getting stupid now

Do bg have notes / how do they know it wasn't before they came/ then ?

I havent a clue mate nothings been made available to me. I just hope the deposit protection scheme are intelligent and clued up enough not to get taken in by the bullshit. Whatever happens though i would like to thank you immensely for your advice

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Good luck

 

[bacon_sandwich]

Thats awful, the good news is that any alterations away from manufacturers specs will make the boiler run less efficient and hence use more gas... lol hopefully even a lay judge could work that out.

 

[Ric2013]

Looks like the form was filled in by a right Charlie.

 

[Best]

As a non gas qualified plumber, I wouldn't know what exactly would happen to the boiler if those screws were tampered with. Therefore for the benefit of a judge, I think it would be essential that a well qualified gas engineer did a letter to explain what Shaun and others have said - re adjusting the screws not being a fuel saving ploy, to nonsense the allegations.
Also if the OP has an unblemished record as a tenant, etc, then all proof of that should be used.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

As a non gas qualified plumber, I wouldn't know what exactly would happen to the boiler if those screws were tampered with. Therefore I think it would be essential that a well qualified gas engineer did a letter to explain what Shaun and others have said - re adjusting the screws not being a fuel saving ploy.
Also if the OP has an unblemished record as a tenant, etc, then all proof of that should be used.

Think of pump pressure point (oil burners) same deal

 

[Best]

Think of pump pressure point (oil burners) same deal

Thanks Shaun. I wasn't sure, but sort of knew the gas valves were sometimes adjusted there for flow rates or whatever it does. Some have a factory seal paint over the screws I think I recall?
Surely tampering with the screws by a novice could be dangerous

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Thanks Shaun. I wasn't sure, but sort of knew the gas valves were sometimes adjusted there for flow rates or whatever it does. Some have a factory seal paint over the screws I think I recall?
Surely tampering with the screws by a novice could be dangerous

Some do and some don't

Yes and no won't effect the boiler much but would realise gas into the room (hence the mastic I think)

Just a test point for burner pressure and inlet (incoming pressure)

 

[bacon_sandwich]

They look like test points to connect your pressure meter, the actual adjustments would be done at other points. Typical point to connect to when servicing, rather than adjustment. Almost un-believable a non gas person would use these to make fuel saving adjustments. As mentioned i have encountered these that have fallen apart in my hands and it is a butt wrenching moment to resolve as a pro. I would not have thought of using silicon though, lol