Macerator advice for newbie

[Lucy387]

Hi there,

I’m having a new bathroom installed and the awkward shape of room means that the best option is to move the toilet and fit a macerator.

I have chosen for a corner toilet as it’s the best space-saving option, but would appreciate some words of advice and wisdom when it comes to the macerator.

There is very little space behind the corner toilet to accommodate a macerator and I am struggling to find a macerator with suitable dimensions.
Can I place the macerator long-ways against the wall and run a flexible pipe from the spigot to the macerator? It would be about 1ft/
1 1/2ft long.
Or does the macerator need to be directly attached to the toilet spigot?

Advice gratefully received! I am not a plumber, just a home-owner who is trying to learn the most basic of basics! ☺️

 

[Riley]

@rpm would you be good enough to help

 

[rpm]

Any make & model in mind Lucy?

 

[Riley]

Thanks mate

 

[Burger]

Research suggests it’s possible with one of these, don’t know how good they are, I haven’t heard of them. (Hideaway macerator)

Macerator Pumps For Sale Saniflo Uniflo macerators

 

[Lucy387]

Any make & model in mind Lucy?

Well, I haven't decided on one yet as it all depends on whether I am restricted to having it behind the toilet or not. But I was initially looking at the SaniAccess 2
SANIACCESS 2 – SANIFLO

But it won't fit behind the toilet so if I can't add a flexible hose, then I will need to find a more compact one. It is for my main bathroom so will get a fair amount of usage.

@CBW1982 suggested this one which could be a good option.
Uniflo-Flush Hide Away Macerator Pump 22mm discharge

 

[Lucy387]

Research suggests it’s possible with one of these, don’t know how good they are, I haven’t heard of them. (Hideaway macerator)

Macerator Pumps For Sale Saniflo Uniflo macerators

Thank you! I hadn't come across these but it could be just what I am after. I'll investigate

 

[rpm]

Certainly cheaper than the Sanipack.

 

[Ben-gee]

If it’s going to get a lot of use I would think seriously about a different layout or getting 4” soil to it.
Have you had a decent bathroom designer look at your options?
A macerator is really for for when NO other options are available , as I sure ( most) people on here would agree.

 

[Burger]

Hi there,

I’m having a new bathroom installed and the awkward shape of room means that the best option is to move the toilet and fit a macerator.

I have chosen for a corner toilet as it’s the best space-saving option, but would appreciate some words of advice and wisdom when it comes to the macerator.

There is very little space behind the corner toilet to accommodate a macerator and I am struggling to find a macerator with suitable dimensions.
Can I place the macerator long-ways against the wall and run a flexible pipe from the spigot to the macerator? It would be about 1ft/
1 1/2ft long.
Or does the macerator need to be directly attached to the toilet spigot?

Advice gratefully received! I am not a plumber, just a home-owner who is trying to learn the most basic of basics! ☺️

Just had a thought in relation to what Ben-gee said, what is your current set-up? Any photos? Maybe we can suggest to help you based on that?

 

[Lucy387]

Wow, really kind of you all, thanks.
Well, I would love to get a bathroom designer, but am on a very tight budget (first home etc) and all the quotes I received were way above my price range.
So I've had some advice from the bathroom fitter, who said that the main problem is the distance that I want to move the toilet. He said that I wouldn't get the fall on the soil pipe and that a macerator would be the best option.
I have attached a drawing (not to scale but dimensions of the room included).
I have the new bath suite, so am fairly fixed on the smaller, deeper tub and corner toilet.
Would also have to be an internal soil pipe otherwise it would run across the front of my house. Plumber said there would be room for it, the only issue is creating the fall.

 

[Burger]

I’m just inquisitive, why all the moving? Any reason why (I’ve attached amended drawing) toilet can’t go where I’ve highlighted blue, the soaking tub/shower go where green,and sink in one of the yellows?

 

[Lucy387]

I’m just inquisitive, why all the moving? Any reason why (I’ve attached amended drawing) toilet can’t go where I’ve highlighted blue, the soaking tub/shower go where green,and sink in one of the yellows?

View attachment 38969

Unfortunately, the tub is too wide to go there. It would leave me with barely a foot at the side to walk through to reach the toilet. It’s bad enough now with a 680mm wide bath. Soaking tub is 900 x 1150. Opted for a shorter, deeper bath so it could go in the alcove where the existing toilet is.

 

[Riley]

Which way do your joists run and are any of the walls of the bathroom outside wallS

 

[Burger]

Which way do your joists run and are any of the walls of the bathroom outside wallS

Looks like joists run same way as bath, nails on photo give an indication.

 

[Burger]

Unfortunately, the tub is too wide to go there. It would leave me with barely a foot at the side to walk through to reach the toilet. It’s bad enough now with a 680mm wide bath. Soaking tub is 900 x 1150. Opted for a shorter, deeper bath so it could go in the alcove where the existing toilet is.

View attachment 38975

Would that boxing in have to go when new bath installed? If not, why not run soil pipe through that? I don’t see how fall is much of an issue.

 

[Ben-gee]

Mountains and molehills spring to mind.
Cbw don’t have to look for nails, just perpendicular to the floorboards! (I know they can be double boarded but hey c’mon guys )

 

[Burger]

Mountains and molehills spring to mind.
Cbw don’t have to look for nails, just perpendicular to the floorboards! (I know they can be double boarded but hey c’mon guys )

I wasn’t trying to be nasty or make a mountain out of a molehill.

 

[Lucy387]

Looks like joists run same way as bath, nails on photo give an indication.

Yes, the joists run in the same direction as the bath. The sink and the toilet are on the outside walls. The sink wall is the front of the house and the toilet wall is the side of the house.

 

[Ben-gee]

I wasn’t trying to be nasty or make a mountain out of a molehill.

No, sorry cbw I didn’t mean you.
I just meant however advised the op that she had to have a macerator.
Like you I can see other solutions.

 

[Lucy387]

There is space behind the boxing in and the pipe would fit behind the bath.
The plumber said that the only issue was creating enough fall so he asked me to find a toilet with a high outlet. When I couldn’t find one, he said I’d need to have a macerator.
So in your opinion, can I get away with having a normal toilet and running the soil pipe internally along the wall and boxing it in? It would run for about 2 1/2 metres, including around two corners, from the toilet to the soil stack. Are you saying that the fall isn’t a problem?

Thanks again for your advice!

 

[Burger]

I just said I couldn’t see the fall being a problem, obviously wouldn’t know without being able to see it for myself. If you were to contact a supplier or look up on google, a high outlet toilet, you would probably find one. In my opinion, I would always try gravity systems first (less cost and complications generally).

 

[Tim S]

What's the other side of the internal wall on the right that creates a dog leg in the bathroom?

 

[Welder]

Personally I'd look at a 900 square shower in the alcove - no bath. Build the end wall out to 900mm which would then leave room for a soil pipe from the wc mounted where the bath end is. The sink could go along the LH wall. By using a Novellini bifold door (they fold ALL the way back) access to the shower is full and free.

 

[Lucy387]

What's the other side of the internal wall on the right that creates a dog leg in the bathroom?

It's the staircase, sadly no scope to knock through.