Magnaclean pro3

[Millsy 82]

Anybody fitted one?

What's your opinion of it?

Not fitted one and wont fit one. Cant see the point if you clean the system prior then why do you need to know how full it is. And then the customer will keep saying it's got x amount in it need cleaning. I cant see how it is going to prevent boiler breakdown before it happens as it said.

 

[Scott_D]

I don’t see the point of it.

 

[SimonG]

Definitely wont be using them.

 

[townfanjon]

Ridiculous idea ( 5 word effin rule )

 

[Harvest Fields]

Not fitted one as yet.

 

[Scott_D]

I haven’t really done any research into it, just seems pointless idea so I looked no further

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Not worth it and let’s be realistic how long is it going to last

 

[Millsy 82]

I'm glad I'm not the only one then who thought it's pointless.

 

[OffshoreGas]

I'm glad I'm not the only one then who thought it's pointless.

My slightly cynical guess is because there is a limit to what you can charge for £5 worth of PA6 plastic and a handful of fittings. Where as if you add £5 of Bluetooth magic to the product you can sell it as “smart” and add £75 to the price and for some reason no one questions it.

 

[Ben-gee]

You would like to think that this one would have fallen at the “is there a need for it/ does it solve a problem” stage of invention.

I think there is a bypass, labelled “can I make some money”, that circumvents common sense.

 

[Chuck]

I think there is a bypass, labelled “can I make some money”, that circumvents common sense.

And another one labelled "internet-connected".

 

[centralheatking]

I cannot see it being a great stand alone domestic install success.
However there is in the multi property world a strong move to mini BMS ...building management systems that monitor aspects of the
property back to a central monitoring station. Temp, humidity, gas water and electricity consumption, etc for each managed property
inc. micro management eg. maybe the fan on the boiler is demanding a few more milli amps than normal, same for the pump
it might fit in in this world where eg 16,000 props are centrally monitored. I have seen the start already. centralheatking

 

[OffshoreGas]

I cannot see it being a great stand alone domestic install success.
However there is in the multi property world a strong move to mini BMS ...building management systems that monitor aspects of the
property back to a central monitoring station. Temp, humidity, gas water and electricity consumption, etc for each managed property
inc. micro management eg. maybe the fan on the boiler is demanding a few more milli amps than normal, same for the pump
it might fit in in this world where eg 16,000 props are centrally monitored. I have seen the start already. centralheatking

Condition based monitoring is possible on a small scale but generally cost prohibitive. Vibration transducers could be fitted to pumps, flow meters on heating circuits or gas consumption vs heating for PHE fouling but it rapidly reaches the point where CBM costs more than the device alternatively you can use cheap equipment but then tend to suffer from lots of false positives.

 

[centralheatking]

Condition based monitoring is possible on a small scale but generally cost prohibitive. Vibration transducers could be fitted to pumps, flow meters on heating circuits or gas consumption vs heating for PHE fouling but it rapidly reaches the point where CBM costs more than the device alternatively you can use cheap equipment but then tend to suffer from lots of false positives.

However in just the same way one can plug the car in for a diagnostic this is arriving for boilers soon ..then off we go
centralheatking

 

[OffshoreGas]

However in just the same way one can plug the car in for a diagnostic this is arriving for boilers soon ..then off we go
centralheatking

Can’t honestly see the benefit of that with such a basic system.

The boilers I’ve played with don’t even appear to contain lambda sensors.

 

[centralheatking]

Can’t honestly see the benefit of that with such a basic system.

The boilers I’ve played with don’t even appear to contain lambda sensors.

The info is there thats how the boiler regulates itself it just needs bringing to a plug in multi connector like a modern car chking

 

[oz-plumber]

The info is there thats how the boiler regulates itself it just needs bringing to a plug in multi connector like a modern car chking

Can't you already access what the boiler has been doing via the parameter settings on the boiler screen.
Older boiler that don't have the diagnostics are generally much easier to find and fix problems.

As for the internet connected filter to give you updates on its condition - total toss.

 

[OffshoreGas]

The info is there thats how the boiler regulates itself it just needs bringing to a plug in multi connector like a modern car chking

Cars use OBDII because they have lots of fairly sophisticated components communicating at high speed. A heating system has about 5% of the control gear of a modern car. Seems a bit pointless. As Oz Plumber says surely this can be provided by the local display.

 

[centralheatking]

I am only conveying what the big housing associations are working on at present. centralheatking

 

[leelister6]

It's amazing how many people are lured into shelling out for so called "smart" products/ideas.
These "smart" motorways are ok till you get ONE dumb **** on it!

 

[EvilDrPorkChop]

It'd of made more sense for them to put a pressure sensor in it and then get it to notify you when your pressure was getting low. That would of been the biggest benefit of it rather than letting the customer know the water quality.... I'd of probably fit the odd few them for the customers who forget to check their pressure.

I might fit one in my own house when I swap the boiler but I won't be fitting any for customers. Seems like they've realised no one is buying them as they seem to be constantly on offer at merchs

 

[OffshoreGas]

It'd of made more sense for them to put a pressure sensor in it and then get it to notify you when your pressure was getting low. That would of been the biggest benefit of it rather than letting the customer know the water quality.. I'd of probably fit the odd few them for the customers who forget to check their pressure.

I might fit one in my own house when I swap the boiler but I won't be fitting any for customers. Seems like they've realised no one is buying them as they seem to be constantly on offer at merchs

A device that designed to accumulate solids wouldn’t be the ideal location to install a pressure transducer that’s fairly likely to block. There also fairly costly to produce, you could measure the accumulations of magnetic sludge with the change in measured flux
density form the permanent magnet quite cheaply and non contact.

 

[centralheatking]

It'd of made more sense for them to put a pressure sensor in it and then get it to notify you when your pressure was getting low. That would of been the biggest benefit of it rather than letting the customer know the water quality.. I'd of probably fit the odd few them for the customers who forget to check their pressure.

I might fit one in my own house when I swap the boiler but I won't be fitting any for customers. Seems like they've realised no one is buying them as they seem to be constantly on offer at merchs

pressure low alert ....pressure sentry from teddington systems
we sell them alongside top up mate, its a good standalone unit
centralheatking

 

[OffshoreGas]

pressure low alert ..pressure sentry from teddington systems
we sell them alongside top up mate, its a good standalone unit
centralheatking

Have you got a link please? Can find various sites on these but no one selling.

 

[Basher]

Have you got a link please? Can find various sites on these but no one selling.

Here is one possibility:

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