Making the Perfect End Feed Solder Joint

[tamz]

Translation
ginger = juice

We don't condone slagging the glow in the darks up here. You get used to it and quite handy for finding your **** :wink:

 

[Backboiler]

How did he get on here Dan?

 

[kirkgas]

Tin the copper pipe! That's the right way all sizes you will never go wrong.

thats stupid advice, not required and not recommended by anyone (apart from you)

 

[secret squirrel]

Never read so much information about how to solder a joint,

Fantastic,

1. cut out all copper in sight
2. replace with plastic
3. plastic joints
4. flexibles

When in a spot and have to use copper then buy the glue that joints them, now what is that called, system 3 can you help here?

 

[Deleted member 25704]

Some more information on soldering, given the op wanted to work toward perfection:

Why Wet cloth and dry cloth?

The use of a dry cloth removes the excess flux 'before' you start soldering (most important tip)

The use of the wet cloth removes the flux residues after the joint has set, and you have finished soldering.

However, a note to those plumbers who insist on wiping around the joint after the solder has been applied, to make a neat looking 'wipe' mark.

This is a habit from the days of leaded solder when the plastic range of the solder made it such, that the solder was still mushy and could be worked for a few seconds after soldering - I too had this habit of wiping around the joint - but it is not needed.

Lead free solder has a different 'plastic range' and will set quickly. If you can wipe away lead free solder snots, then you have made the following actions that are just not required:

1. You have applied too much solder in the first instance risking waste of resources, time, money.
2. You have applied too much heat in order that lead free has plastic range which risks oxidising the joint.
3. You have risked 'cracking' the joint because you have touched it during its 'setting' stage.

If we wish to move our existing skills to those of mastery we sometimes need to recognise 'reasoned' scientific arguments. If people wipe around their joints and they have always done it, and had no problems, then they are masters of waste, and plug their ears when others advise - this is also an outcome of mastery, because we are capable of doing things the wrong way for years, but still achieve a desirable outcome - I am guilty of this too, but perhaps not for soldering!

 

[zzzjim]

Some more information on soldering,
.... Lead Free .... Cleaning Snots

1. You have applied too much solder in the first instance risking waste of resources, time, money.
2. You have applied too much heat in order that lead free has plastic range which risks oxidising the joint.
3. You have risked 'cracking' the joint because you have touched it during its 'setting' stage.

Cheers , so if you can wipe a lead free .... you've done it wrong

and should not be prodding it while it sets

 

[Gray0689]

Practice and you will find the best way for you

 

[SimonG]

I only wipe once it has cooled slightly. My pet hate is to see green joints where the flux residue has been left on. Yack.

 

[tuttogallo]

thanks to everyone who replied.

As well as advice on making the perfect solder joint. I have also learned about:
- cats
- unblocking toilets
- female plumbing
- activities of electricians

Amazing!!

thanks again everyone

 

[Dotty]

thanks to everyone who replied.

As well as advice on making the perfect solder joint. I have also learned about:
- cats
- unblocking toilets
- female plumbing
- activities of electricians

Amazing!!

thanks again everyone

Pleasure Tutto, we've a wealth of knowledge and information available to those who ask and those who dont!

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

As well as advice on making the perfect solder joint. I have also learned about:
- cats
jack russels normally fix them
- unblocking toilets
you put it there you fix it
- female plumbing
cant be fixed,its got a mind of its own
- activities of electricians
​there all weird

 

[Dotty]

- cats
jack russels normally fix them

Unless the parrot's in a chicken fueled frenzy........

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

Unless the parrot's in a chicken fueled frenzy........

lol,its tried beef tonight likes that as well, and it bit lizzie,god help us its tasted blood and wants more

 

[Dotty]

lol,its tried beef tonight likes that as well, and it bit lizzie,god help us its tasted blood and wants more

Told you! I bleeding told you!
We're all doomed!

 

[lame plumber]

parrots large grey chatty things always asking for grapes when all it wants is the finger holding the grape

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

parrots large grey chatty things always asking for grapes when all it wants is the finger holding the grape

thats so true LOL

 

[OGBUzzard]

Just use your flux brush to flick the droplet off, obviously you have to keep the flame on the joint until just before you're about to flick it. wire wool brushed back and forth parallel to the pipe also works...

 

[tamz]

Whats wrong with using your finger? It won't burn you. Try it

 

[Gray0689]

Whats wrong with using your finger? It won't burn you. Try it

Lol you do that too

 

[plum ber]

tip of the century this is

Deffo as them gas bottles aint cheap.......

hang on just eard a firework?? Dec right??? madness

 

[tamz]

Lol you do that too

All the time lol

 

[Howsie]

...error in the above, most plumbers STILL put too much solder in....but are creative in pipe supportView attachment 9103

If its out of sight then who cares? As long as it doesn't leak.

 

[plum ber]

If its out of sight then who cares? As long as it doesn't leak.

:13:

what about water hammer and pipe support though??

 

[Howsie]

:13:

what about water hammer and pipe support though??

I was commenting on the soldering.

 

[plum ber]

I was commenting on the soldering.

Apologies in that case as it is a great effort and does kinda support the pipe in question