Need Help! in Gas

[metaldust9]

yep agree with you kirkgas whole thing is all wrong,but 8 weeks mate passed and not been out there not blaming the bloke but how can you pass and never done any of what you have said above, at least some of them will have come across stuff at some point,tt is the first thing i do tells you everything,

 

[metaldust9]

payney midfeathers are in the chimily between houses that go and let fumes into the loft or the ajoining house if gone and lethal usually tell if the smoke is round the chimney pot bottom and dont out the chimney pot itself

 

[payney1974]

I'll take your word for it Metaldust9.

 

[Bill Raybould]

And all i was looking for was some help! For someone to take me under there wing to work for nothing to get some experience, local to were i live.

 

[payney1974]

I feel for you Bill, you do get that alot on here! We all had to start somewhere.

 

[Bill Raybould]

Well Payney Apart for you!, the rest are a wast of time. Will i have tryed on here but i will not be coming back its i wast of time.

 

[payney1974]

Try ringing a few small companies and offer yourself to them for free to get the experience. Large companies will be very reluctant to let you work for free and theres health and safety headaches!

 

[Bill Raybould]

I have but i will keep trying Many thanks Payney

 

[Bartdude]

Well Payney Apart for you!, the rest are a wast of time. Will i have tryed on here but i will not be coming back its i wast of time.

I appreciate that you feel that you're not being helped enough here but there are posts like yours every day on this forum.A lot of the guys on here are fully trained and self-employed and the lack of work at the moment is biting for many. The training centres that offer these short courses promise all sorts of potential work and earnings when the reality is very different. If you search on this forum you'll find lots of discussion on this subject.

I wish you luck in your search but the cold reality is that the market is depressed and jobs will be few and far between.

 

[fuzzy]

I have passed CCN1 CENWAT CKR1 CPA1 HTR1 MET2

if you have no plumbing quals you must be a cat 3. That cat requires extensive experience, approx 240 days o work. so how can you have tht qual and not be experienced?? thats the thing that gets me, it isnt a course for newbies, never was, doesnt even teach you how to do gas, its a safety course. why do it in the first place if you have no other experience or quals?

acs wasnt desinged for newbies

 

[metaldust9]

good luck to you, but u,ll find no one will help, as said above, i had to beg people to help me for 6 months or more and go thro people i new,and id been in the game yrs so no one will help people they dont no as its compertition against them and its already full with little work

 

[kirkgas]

Well Payney Apart for you!, the rest are a wast of time. Will i have tryed on here but i will not be coming back its i wast of time.

sorry nobody jumped at your offer of free labour, but do yourself a favour and kick about here a while, you will learn more here than anywhere else, once you settle in and see who is who, you will get on fine, yes you will take pelters, but give it back just the same, seriously i wish you well, if you read posts on here you will pick up loads, chip in anytime you want to, the worst that can happen is that you will get slated mercilessly and verbally abused, but hey ho what else would you be doing

 

[GQuigley67]

due to your lack of experience, your choice of jobs will be limited. I would suggest going on fault finding courses and manufacturers courses if you are familiar with electronics then I'd suggest you become a service and breakdown engineer and do landlord certificates. Teach yourself the workings of different boilers and systems, study each night learn how they are designed and how they are supposed to work. After all if you know how to make the gas safe, then who cares if you dont know how to solder a joint and install a boiler you can be a service/break down engineer plenty of guys out there who can't do installs but can repair and service appliances.

 

[Bill Raybould]

Hi GQUIGLEY67, thank you for that

 

[GQuigley67]

Hi GQUIGLEY67, thank you for that

also try and get in touch with a local engineer, who you can sub contract work to as you would be learning off him as well as pleasing the customers.

 

[Gray0689]

also try and get in touch with a local engineer, who you can sub contract work to as you would be learning off him as well as pleasing the customers.

That's good advice from GQ

 

[Kimou]

Hi Bill, people are just expressing opinion about a certain matter. And opinions are to be taken with a pinch of salt. Stick around, no point letting a bad experience ruin everything. You'll have other questions and questions you didn't even realise will be answered. On the flipside, I'm sure you'll also be in a position to help others if you stay. We can only but learn from others. If people don't like the fast track methods, interacting with those people that have qualified in such a way may have a easing their opinions. Think of yourself as a pioneer of sorts

 

[Bill Raybould]

Thanks for that Kimou. Your right i am finding this out. When i started out no one told me a lot of thing i am now finding out, if i had i may not of bothered. When i was made redundent i only had a small sum of money and doing this used most of it, so now i am between a rock and a hard place. I will keep trying for a bit longer. Tanks again Kimou

 

[villa_tom]

Thanks for that Kimou. Your right i am finding this out. When i started out no one told me a lot of thing i am now finding out, if i had i may not of bothered. When i was made redundent i only had a small sum of money and doing this used most of it, so now i am between a rock and a hard place. I will keep trying for a bit longer. Tanks again Kimou

Just stick at it mate. Get yourself on as many free manufacturers training courses as you can in the time being. Plus you could ask your local merchants if anybody knows of any jobs goin in your area. Thats how my mate found a job its a long shot but surely worth it.

Good luck

 

[the_ace]

You might have half a chance of getting a job fitting meters, that seems to be the first step onto working with gas for a lot of people. All the best, it will be hard but keep at it.

 

[Kimou]

Thanks for that Kimou. Your right i am finding this out. When i started out no one told me a lot of thing i am now finding out, if i had i may not of bothered. When i was made redundent i only had a small sum of money and doing this used most of it, so now i am between a rock and a hard place. I will keep trying for a bit longer. Tanks again Kimou

My pleasure. I know that glass ceiling all too well. I can empathise totally with your situation. You're damned if you do, and you're damned if you don't. You're picking yourself up and starting again. Admirable on all counts. People would slight you if you just sat on your arse and claimed benefits but you're using your own funding and your own motivation to get what you want. You can't win, but it's not a competition so what the hell. Brick walls are invented for us to overcome. It's what makes us become better at dealing with situations. They are only obstacles. You've done what's required and if a body like 'The Government' has deemed this course of action acceptible, then maybe it actually is. And anyway, if you prove to be so incompetent you will lose your registration. And Gase safe are sending the engs' clients letters after installations to give them a free inspection to make sure work was done to regs.

On the other hand, people are rightfully indignant to modern schemes as it undermines what they've been taught and difficulties they've endured to get where they are. Especially initiation rituals. Why should have the right to be classified as equal when you haven't had your knackers painted bright blue stapled the the bingo halls doors on granny night?!.

You get my drift. All the crappy jobs to learn what they know so they do have good cause as bad workmanship and inexperience generally taints the industry as a whole.
It's only my opinion though. Just ride out the storm, you'll be fine.

 

[REDSAW]

also if you have passed your gas without going out on site or in the field so to speak you have the power to pass landlord checks how do ye no what to look for like midfeathers gone ,liners missing,fumes in lofts uncleaned chimneys so yellow flame etc dodgy boilers dodgy gas fires ,flueless gasfires that are not set right, now there lethal the list goes on

e aint said he done fires?

 

[REDSAW]

cant understand why your not applying to install meters for eon contracts there advertising all over the job centers and give training, you only need the met ticket?.

 

[metaldust9]

i wasnt slagging you off just explaining how it is and how it was for me,took me ages to find anyone to help,by lots of ringing round and begging so no how you feel ,good luck to you,but theres little work out there,if you lived by me which you dont i would help you ,and was just trying to explain how can you go from a completly diffrent trade to gas in 8 weeks theres just to much to know in that time having never done it

as redsaw and a few others ave said why dont you do meters or have you got to go with someone to pass fully

 

[Pssst]

Hi all...I'm a newbie to the forums though ive been fiddling with gas for over 30 years.

This post caught my eye.

Are we saying that there is a course you can do that is only 8 weeks long and then your apparently fit to fly and can be registered?

How times have changed.

I served a basic 3 year craft apprenticeship then bolted on the top of that i did about a further 3 years of study in Gas engineering for more bits of paper to HND level.

I hope the OP finds his way and earns some money for him and his family but also recognises the great disparity in training.

I recently was on site where a young gas chap who had just obtained his I & C ticket,was visibly and verbally expressing great anxiety as he was having problems with the supply/boiler room/alarms going off. His actual words were.. (in an almost fearful tone) ..I need to get out of this cos i havent a clue whats going on....