New and wanting help. Air in the system?

[Francisco Barros]

Hi
Got a new house and has a power shower fitted.

A few weeks after moving in the shower started to struggle, like water wasn’t coming through.
Got a “Triton power shower” but the problem still there. Sometimes worked a little better and sometimes didn’t but always struggling , sounded like an engine when stationary but still pressing on the pedal.

Got a plumber and he fitted a valve in the loft to release the air.

Problem still there and he advise to replace the shower was it was faulty.

Got a new shower today and before I installed it done some tests:
- try to bleed the radiator in the bathroom that it’s connected to the hot water system (at least it’s what I think), no luck.
- check the water coming to the shower pipes without anything attached and clearly can be seen struggling.
- used the trick to block the hot water in the kitchen and while blocked open the cold, no luck.

Fitted the new shower but still doesn’t work.
Tried to let it run without the shower head and it does run (struggles) but 10 minutes later wife goes to have shower and doesn’t work, goes dry.

I have water tank in the loft that feed the hot water tank, the locking thing works.
In the kitchen there is a boiler that heats the water and does the radiators.

It doesn’t have a Surrey or Sussex flange but after discussing it with the plumber he says the way it is should work.

Any help would be welcome as I am relying on a jug for shower as the other shower in the bath has no pressure.

 

[Harvest Fields]

Can I have a picture of the actual
Shower please

 

[Francisco Barros]

I'm out, this guys a bodger and shouldn't be going anywhere near it.

What a bell end you are , I was just worried that I wasn’t making much sense and today started a new one but on the newbie forum and thought I would get more responde on the plumbing one. I can’t find an option to delete.
Thanks for nothing and your last advice was crap anyway . Get another plumber , no Rubbish Sherlock .

 

[Francisco Barros]

Err will now have 3 threads on the same problem and you decided to start 2 today
BECAUSE IT WAS GETTING CONFUSING!

Can you delete the others ?

 

[Harvest Fields]

It is only his opinion mate. Don’t take it to heart. No need to be nasty.

 

[Harvest Fields]

Can you delete the others ?

@ShaunCorbs can

 

[Ric2013]

Post deleted as I can't be bothered to try to help someone who is rude on this forum.

 

[Welder]

Post deleted. Echo Ric

 

[Harvest Fields]

It your old age mate

 

[Francisco Barros]

It is only his opinion mate. Don’t take it to heart. No need to be nasty.

Wasn't he first calling me a bodger ??? how does he comes to such a conclusion just by reading my posts. My bad should only post here.

 

[Francisco Barros]

Does this pipe go to the shower?

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yes the one with the curve.

 

[Francisco Barros]

Can I have a picture of the actual
Shower please

 

[Harvest Fields]

Would say that it is either the fact the shower can not detect the pressure drop in the supply to switch the pump on or it keeps air locking in the loft? Shower with integral pumps don’t really like up and over pipework.

 

[gmartine]

What a bell end you are , I was just worried that I wasn’t making much sense and today started a new one but on the newbie forum and thought I would get more responde on the plumbing one. I can’t find an option to delete.
Thanks for nothing and your last advice was crap anyway . Get another plumber , no **** Sherlock .

You're welcome, btw it should've been the first advice I gave you since it's clear you know very little...

"- try to bleed the radiator in the bathroom that it’s connected to the hot water system (at least it’s what I think), no luck."

 

[Francisco Barros]

Would say that it is either the fact the shower can not detect the pressure drop in the supply to switch the pump on or it keeps air locking in the loft? Shower with integral pumps don’t really like up and over pipework.

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Don't if you seen what I posted earlier :

"So I tried different things and found out that if the boiler is left on 24hr (I say on but I believe comes on every time the stat ask for more heat) the shower works.

If is set to come on a couple of hours a day, shower won't work,
to be clear shower works but struggles as very little hot water comes through."

I have a nest where I set the schedules.

 

[Harvest Fields]

Don't if you seen what I posted earlier :

"So I tried different things and found out that if the boiler is left on 24hr (I say on but I believe comes on every time the stat ask for more heat) the shower works.

If is set to come on a couple of hours a day, shower won't work,
to be clear shower works but struggles as very little hot water comes through."

I have a nest where I set the schedules.

When you say Little hot water? Do you mean temperature or flow?

 

[Welder]

Mods. Bell End Emoji pls. Cant wait to apply it here.

 

[Francisco Barros]

When you say Little hot water? Do you mean temperature or flow?

Water - air - water - air - water - air - air

And you can hear the shower struggling because the hot water it’s not getting to the shower. If I turn the dial to more cold, water comes out but still struggles as the won’t let you have just cold.

My issue is, I can’t have the tank heating up only 2/3 hours a day, needs to be always on for it to work.

 

[Harvest Fields]

Where is the shower in relation to the hot water tank?

 

[rpm]

What the eck is going on lately one air in shower pump thread after another and all of them badly piped up.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

@ShaunCorbs can

Done

 

[Francisco Barros]

Where is the shower in relation to the hot water tank?

Same level , cupboard next to bathroom.

 

[Harvest Fields]

Same level , cupboard next to bathroom.

Cut a hole in the wall in the airing cupboard directly behind where the shower is. And pipe the pipe from the cylinder directly into the shower unit.

 

[Francisco Barros]

Cut a hole in the wall in the airing cupboard directly behind where the shower is. And pipe the pipe from the cylinder directly into the shower unit.

Not an option, as I say next to but on the other side .

 

[Francisco Barros]

Mods. Bell End Emoji pls. Cant wait to apply it here.

If I call another plumber and get one with your attitude... I have no chance of getting it fixed.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Fit a standard shower and install a shower pump if the cold tank is big enough

Or go electric