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[Logicearl]

At no point did I ever think it was going to be, lol.

 

[TBServices]

Logic or intergas for me

 

[vern]

At no point did I ever think it was going to be, lol.

Take no notice of the sheeps heads pal, get a Worcester Bosch! :hurray:

 

[Logicearl]

Whilst I'm at it, are any of these Wireless thermo thingybobs any good? Worth the money?

 

[Roger Welton]

Yes, work very well, personal preference is Remeha iSense (RF) or Honeywell CM range

 

[vern]

I am with Roger..... Honeywell CM 921 /927 all the way!

 

[dancinplumba]

Whilst I'm at it, are any of these Wireless thermo thingybobs any good? Worth the money?

Oops isence isnt wireless i believe , trydelta dore which have 5 year warranty

 

[Logicearl]

So you can have it anywhere in the house, I assume there's no problem with range?

 

[JAH HEATING]

I've fitted loads of Vaillant's Pro's & Plus, once I've had to call them out

Can't knock them, though I do admitt, the latest Pro's on the shelf aren't as good IMO as the last

 

[Roger Welton]

There is a RF version now, only 2 wire connection to the avantas, (take 5v supply from boiler as well as control signal to it through same pair)

 

[dancinplumba]

So you can have it anywhere in the house, I assume there's no problem with range?

the best range 300mts is delta dore

 

[dancinplumba]

There is a RF version now, only 2 wire connection to the avantas, (take 5v supply from boiler as well as control signal to it through same pair)

is that not just qsense stat ?

 

[Roger Welton]

nope, q sense is wired (2 wires)

edit to add

http://www.condensing-boiler.co.uk/Controls/ISense-Controller---RF-Version.html

re edit price is way over the top there though! or if my customers are reading not

 

[dancinplumba]

aha they have done it, nice one, but the qsense i have in shed is wireless

 

[Roger Welton]

Yup, they are giving the qsense away with the exclusive at the moment, I have a few in garage as a result as I ted to use isense rf instead, q sense are nice also though, can use them with isense to zone house and control both zones from i sense.

 

[dancinplumba]

intergas recommend isense

 

[Roger Welton]

would be interesting to know if they provide the 5v required down the opentherm connections otherwise would require a transformer to power it (RF version that is)

 

[dancinplumba]

will check tomorrow roger

 

[Logicearl]

Once again guys, much thanks for this info.
Will give me something to do in the coming days.

 

[dancinplumba]

would be interesting to know if they provide the 5v required down the opentherm connections otherwise would require a transformer to power it (RF version that is)

asked today and will need the transformer roger

 

[Logicearl]

One last question re boilers. One of our local plumbers has recommended the Vokera range, how do they rate amongst you all?

 

[dancinplumba]

One last question re boilers. One of our local plumbers has recommended the Vokera range, how do they rate amongst you all?

dirty word, wash your mouth out

 

[petercj]

You will get different opinions on here re what is the best-buy boiler.

The Ideal Logic+ is one of the most popular budget boilers on here of late, but that could change.

Boilers, rather like cars, contain components from various manufacturer's in various parts of the world, and if a vital component gets changed to the detriment of reliability, then what was a good boiler can become one to avoid.

The Vaillant is the BMW of boilers, regardless of what any individual may say. But their achilles heel is the small bore heat exchangers used in some of them, which can easily become blocked or restricted. But fitting a filter will protect against such problems. The role of a filter is explained here:-

trappex | advanced magnetic and non-magnetic particle filter

The Trappex filter has been designed and produced by a gas engineer who used his experience of fitting less reliable and less efficient filters to produce a good all-rounder at a competitive price.

Valliant are now offering a 7 year warranty with some of their boilers, and my choice would be one of those, fitted with a Trappex Centramag filter.

 

[dancinplumba]

Vaillant is NOT the BMW of boilers despite what others will say, Any boiler that has rubber pipes inside should be chucked on the scrap heap

 

[petercj]

Vaillant is NOT the BMW of boilers despite what others will say, Any boiler that has rubber pipes inside should be chucked on the scrap heap

BMW use rubber (composite) pipes - if it does the job successfully, and is covered by a 7 year warranty, so what.