new boilers to try

[TBServices]

One good wb is greenspring wall hung DHW unit 17lpm out of essentially a main multi point!

That does look good. 20l/m and still condenses.

 

[Leo21]

If they applied real thought to the install process why do we have to cut 3/4" off the gas tail even if we fit a stand off and the copper is a cant to cut. At least 15 turns on a pipe slice(new wheel). I've counted and it pis ses me off.
Apart from that i like them.
Used to fit a lot of Aristons in the days of the Italy trips. They were always a decent enough boiler and i ever had any problems from the couple of hundred i fitted.
One eye opener on one of the factory trips was they (Ariston) had a room filled with boilers from all other manu's running and hooked up to computers. They took the best bits from the others and adapted them to their own boilers.
I suppose all the other do that too. Been down to Worcester but they never showed us much. more a sales pitch with a couple of tips and freebies to make you feel good.

Please! You have to cut a pipe, really! My only complaints with Vaillant are that the flues paper thin, the pressure vessels teeny and fluctuates a lot. And some of the water carrying paets are pig to change.
Lovely ergonomic looking boiler, which gives the impression of quality.

Baxis feel cheap and always seem to leaking from somewhere when you go back to service them. But loads of room in them for component changes.

 

[Leo21]

Whoops sorry Tamz, attached wrong quote. Don't hurt me!

 

[kay-jay]

Another logic plus point is the weight. Nice and light compared to other boilers.

 

[Leo21]

No one stocks them round our way, totally off the grid.

 

[TBServices]

No one sticks what? :s

 

[Ermintrude]

Get ray to post you one as a trial, as he is soo cheap and boilers are so nice your going to be ordering 100's of them from him so probably in his interest to post you one free?

 

[Ray Stafford]

Get ray to post you one as a trial, as he is soo cheap and boilers are so nice your going to be ordering 100's of them from him so probably in his interest to post you one free?

You haven't quite grasped how this merchanting thing works, have you Guy?

 

[Ermintrude]

You haven't quite grasped how this merchanting thing works, have you Guy?

Oh sorry.... Pay ray the RRP of the boiler plus vat and delivery, then amazon will send it to you?

 

[Ray Stafford]

Oh sorry.... Pay ray the RRP of the boiler plus vat and delivery, then amazon will send it to you?

Can you start on Monday?

 

[Ermintrude]

Can you start on Monday?

Can u pay me in bickies?

 

[Ray Stafford]

Can u pay me in bickies?

I had peanuts more in mind?

 

[Ermintrude]

I had peanuts more in mind?

Cows eat grass and drink milk ( bickies too) badgers like peanuts.

 

[Leo21]

No one sticks what? :s

Ideals.

 

[Ray Stafford]

Cows eat grass and drink milk ( bickies too) badgers like peanuts.

Cows drink milk? Don't give up the pipe-wrangling for a career in dairy farming will you?

 

[Ermintrude]

Suppose u don't put toast in a toaster either?

 

[TBServices]

Ideals.

Find that hard to believe considering their market share.

 

[kay-jay]

Cows drink milk? Don't give up the pipe-wrangling for a career in dairy farming will you?

Should probably give up the pipe smoking though. ..

 

[Leo21]

Find that hard to believe considering their market share.

Seriuosly, every month I get a offer list, boiler prices etc. Ideals are never in it. I never get asked for them either. It's all Worcester or Vaillant enquiries.

 

[Ermintrude]

Should probably give up the pipe smoking though. ..

I take my meth up my nose like a "man"

 

[PlumbersMate]

Seriuosly, every month I get a offer list, boiler prices etc. Ideals are never in it. I never get asked for them either. It's all Worcester or Vaillant enquiries.

Have to say down here it seems a lot of customers know about worcesters ahead of most

 

[Ray Stafford]

Nationally, Worcester is number one by quite a large margin, with Vaillant at two. However, if you put Glowworm and Heatline in the pot (as Vaillant owned brands) then Vaillant are quite close to Worcester.

I think that Ideal knocked Baxi off the number 3 spot last year, but not sure if they have been able to hold it - I suspect that the Baxi HEA campaign may have put them back 3rd. (Again, lumping all BDR brands together, and treating all Ideal OEM business as part of the core brand).

The overall market has risen sharply in 2013 (probably up to 1.65m units, from under 1.5 last year), so absolute sales may rise for any brand, even if it has been losing market share.

The Logic platform (including all variants) has been the biggest market mover since the Baxi 105 family. And saved Ideal's bum - I reckon they would either be bust or bought without it.

 

[Killy Bing]

I don't think ray would be so willing, not after my last boiler

 

[bert large]

Another vote for Vaillants from me. Always been happy with their quality although not so keen on the latest idea of screen & two buttons for all functions. Very hard to explain to an OAP how to vary their water/heating temps.
Hate WB with a passion, everybody has heard of them through their marketing & everyone assumes them to be the dog do-da's, even lost a few jobs as I won't fit them.

I've not fitted a Logic but hear many good things about them. Are there any weak points/common fault to them ? all boilers have their gliches surely ?

Can anyone post some internal photos of Logics please ?

 

[TBServices]

Bert if you like the inside of vaillants, you will like the logic and vogue. Don't know how they've created so much space inside such a tiny case tbh.