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Nice one petercj,
I appreciate your informed piece and apologise for my 'potted acount' which is indeed a literature review of books from the era. My experience has been mainly as plumber for the last three decades, with academic learning outside of this field for the past decade, but I still have much to learn. So it is good to have this type of exchange.
I accept the merits of your anecdotes there but there are gaps for further learning on both our parts, because experience is good, but it can shackle the mind. I do not trust my own experience alone to lead me to meaningful knowledge, I sometimes need the help of others like yourself.
Those who were once appathetic about training, turned the notion of competency to their own advantage in the form of their interests directed toward training. I accept the government may have, and still are stumbling from one poor policy to another (traineeships, apprenticeships/richards review/train to gain/a4e) and that is why they are probably turning a blind eye to this productive training system. Those raking in the money from training are unaffected, by current policy because it is growth at all costs. The organisational arrangements with the building engineering services sector over the last decade or so, is determined by strategic intention, and this is not trial and error - which is perhaps our point of departure.
I enjoyed your account and hope that we can both use our learning and capital to help those entering the industry to see it differently and be cautious, given the news today that the construction sector looks bleak for the next decade.
UK construction faces decade of 'pain' | Business | guardian.co.uk
There are others on this forum that hold similar concerns, I just hope we can make some sort of collective effort to make a challenge at some point. We can only change this ourselves, and by that I mean those bending their backs, and doing the job, not 'employers' or their representatives.
I appreciate your informed piece and apologise for my 'potted acount' which is indeed a literature review of books from the era. My experience has been mainly as plumber for the last three decades, with academic learning outside of this field for the past decade, but I still have much to learn. So it is good to have this type of exchange.
I accept the merits of your anecdotes there but there are gaps for further learning on both our parts, because experience is good, but it can shackle the mind. I do not trust my own experience alone to lead me to meaningful knowledge, I sometimes need the help of others like yourself.
Those who were once appathetic about training, turned the notion of competency to their own advantage in the form of their interests directed toward training. I accept the government may have, and still are stumbling from one poor policy to another (traineeships, apprenticeships/richards review/train to gain/a4e) and that is why they are probably turning a blind eye to this productive training system. Those raking in the money from training are unaffected, by current policy because it is growth at all costs. The organisational arrangements with the building engineering services sector over the last decade or so, is determined by strategic intention, and this is not trial and error - which is perhaps our point of departure.
I enjoyed your account and hope that we can both use our learning and capital to help those entering the industry to see it differently and be cautious, given the news today that the construction sector looks bleak for the next decade.
UK construction faces decade of 'pain' | Business | guardian.co.uk
There are others on this forum that hold similar concerns, I just hope we can make some sort of collective effort to make a challenge at some point. We can only change this ourselves, and by that I mean those bending their backs, and doing the job, not 'employers' or their representatives.